[Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install GRASS properly, ... 'sigh...'
Andreas Neumann
a.neumann at carto.net
Wed Oct 31 15:24:54 PDT 2018
Hi Stace,
Sorry to hear about that. Can you remind me, when you tried to contact
me? I couldn't find any record of it.
Normally I am pretty responsive to such questions: even if we normally
don't do earmarked donations, we always try to help you find a developer
with the expertise to help fix issues.
We also have the QGIS grants program, where contributors can propose a
project that is funded from the general donations and sponsorships.
Improving installer and user experience on the MacOS platform could be
one such project.
Note that GRASS and QGIS are separate projects with their own, different
release schedules. It is normal that sometimes things break between this
too separate projects - not on purpose, but it happens. This is nothing
specific on the MacOS platform. It also happens on Windows and Linux.
About your general complaint that we tend to neglect the MacOS platform:
are you aware that we just recently did a fund raising initiative
targeted specifically to fixing issues on the MacOS platform? See
http://blog.qgis.org/2018/09/12/macosx-specific-bug-fixing-campaign/
About 30 people contributed a little more than 3000 € altogether. So
people do care about it - but to put in in perspective: one single ESRI
license probably costs more than what this campaign raised.
Nevertheless, it was nice to see that >30 people chipped in and it shows
that the QGIS.ORG project also cares about it. There are some nice
results from this initiative and we will soon blog about the results for
the campaign.
Greetings,
Andreas
Am 31.10.18 um 19:11 schrieb Mr. Stace D Maples:
>
> Yes, I have contacted Andreas Neumann directly with no response.
>
> In F,L&T,
>
> Stace Maples
>
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>
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> "I have a map of the United States... actual size.
>
> It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
>
> I spent last summer folding it."
>
> -Steven Wright-
>
> *From: *Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it>
> *Date: *Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 11:10 AM
> *To: *"Mr. Stace D Maples" <stacemaples at stanford.edu>, Régis Haubourg
> <regis.haubourg at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *QGIS list <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install GRASS
> properly, ... 'sigh...'
>
> Have you tried e.g.
> https://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/sponsorship/sponsorship.html#qgis-sponsorship-program
> ?
> Cheers.
>
> Il 31 ottobre 2018 18:59:45 CET, "Mr. Stace D Maples"
> <stacemaples at stanford.edu> ha scritto:
>
> “If you have any fund or developers available, please contribute
> back. ”
>
> Again, we’d love to know how to do this, and who to contact
> directly for some actual results. We’ve tried. No one seems to be
> interested beyond suggesting that we contribute.
>
> In F,L&T,
>
> Stace Maples
>
> Geospatial Manager
>
> Stanford Geospatial Center
>
> @mapninja
>
> G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples
>
> 214.641.0920
>
> Find GeoData: https://earthworks.stanford.edu
> <https://earthworks.stanford.edu/>
>
> Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/
>
> stanfordgis Listserv:
> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis
>
> "I have a map of the United States... actual size.
>
> It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
>
> I spent last summer folding it."
>
> -Steven Wright-
>
> *From: *Régis Haubourg <regis.haubourg at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:57 AM
> *To: *"Mr. Stace D Maples" <stacemaples at stanford.edu>
> *Cc: *Ian Turton <ijturton at gmail.com>, QGIS list
> <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install
> GRASS properly, ... 'sigh...'
>
> I don't think anger and rage are in any way a way to change things.
>
> Especially right after a release sprint with so much effort by so
> much people.
>
> Coming back to the real topic, MacOS really lacks funds to support
> packaging. It is way more difficult to package and solve some
> issues on MacOS. I have seen a lot of people working hard on
> having it running correctly, and it is NOT easy.
>
> If you have any fund or developpers available, please contribute
> back.
>
> Thanks
>
> Régis
>
> Le mer. 31 oct. 2018 à 18:46, Mr. Stace D Maples
> <stacemaples at stanford.edu <mailto:stacemaples at stanford.edu>> a écrit :
>
> To be fair, Esri doesn’t claim to run on a Mac.
>
> Also, we’ve reached out numerous times to QGIS.org and others
> trying to find out how to fund this, with total silence from
> everywhere, including this list. So there’s that.
>
> Is it really a put up or shut up issue when you are releasing
> this as a stable release? Really?
>
> In F,L&T,
>
> Stace Maples
>
> Geospatial Manager
>
> Stanford Geospatial Center
>
> @mapninja
>
> G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples
>
> 214.641.0920
>
> Find GeoData: https://earthworks.stanford.edu
> <https://earthworks.stanford.edu/>
>
> Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/
>
> stanfordgis Listserv:
> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis
>
> "I have a map of the United States... actual size.
>
> It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
>
> I spent last summer folding it."
>
> -Steven Wright-
>
> *From: *Ian Turton <ijturton at gmail.com
> <mailto:ijturton at gmail.com>>
> *Date: *Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:30 AM
> *To: *"Mr. Stace D Maples" <stacemaples at stanford.edu
> <mailto:stacemaples at stanford.edu>>
> *Cc: *QGIS User List <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>>
> *Subject: *Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't
> install GRASS properly, ... 'sigh...'
>
> To be fair you can't run ESRI on a mac either, but this is
> basically a put up or shut up issue - hire a developer to fix
> the mac build if you can't do it your self.
>
> Ian
>
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 17:27, Mr. Stace D Maples
> <stacemaples at stanford.edu <mailto:stacemaples at stanford.edu>>
> wrote:
>
> Seriously, we just can’t get a working installer for
> macOS? It’s just never gonna happen, is that it? I’d love
> to be able to teach QGIS alongside Esri, but I can tell
> people to use something that doesn’t work, out of the box.
> I’ve been trying for 2 days now to get back to a working
> copy of QGIS3. It’s my fault, of course. I know better
> than to upgrade, now. If you aren’t going to test it
> properly, don’t release it.
>
> Here is what I get when running GRASS tools:
>
> 2018-10-31T08:54:25 INFO GRASS GIS 7 execution console
> output
>
> WARNING: Default locale settings are missing. GRASS
> running with C locale.
>
> Starting GRASS GIS...
>
> ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist
>
> Default locale not found, using UTF-8
>
> Exiting...
>
> WARNING: Default locale settings are missing. GRASS
> running with C locale.
>
> Starting GRASS GIS...
>
> ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist
>
> Default locale not found, using UTF-8
>
> Exiting...
>
> Yes, I read the ReadMe and followed the instructions
>
> Yes, I’ve added the ENV variables
>
> Yes, I’ve scrubbed everything and done a clean install
> (several times)
>
> Yes, I even tried the futile installation of the GRASS
> “required frameworks” which seem to be the only solutions
> anyone is able to suggest on StackExchange.
>
> Yes I tried installing GRASS on it’s own and pointing to
> it from the processing settings, which didn’t work.
>
> Perfectly open to suggestions that DON’T involve any of
> the above.
>
> In F,L&T,
>
> Stace Maples
>
> Geospatial Manager
>
> Stanford Geospatial Center
>
> @mapninja
>
> G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples
>
> 214.641.0920
>
> Find GeoData: https://earthworks.stanford.edu
> <https://earthworks.stanford.edu/>
>
> Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/
>
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> "I have a map of the United States... actual size.
>
> It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
>
> I spent last summer folding it."
>
> -Steven Wright-
>
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