[Qgis-user] Lat Lon Tools question
Nicolas Cadieux
njacadieux.gitlab at gmail.com
Mon Feb 8 10:26:35 PST 2021
Hi,
I have add a google drive link to the world MGRS. This should help.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HeTOUCHrOF4dqLXyebO33nUwioYGnGbI/view?usp=sharing
Nicolas
On 2021-02-08 9:34 a.m., C Hamilton wrote:
> I should have jumped in on this conversation over the weekend
> especially since I am the author of Lat Lon Tools. but all who
> responded have properly addressed the problems with UTM and
> especially with how MGRS got mixed in with UTM and the confusion with
> N & S. What Lat Lon Tools provides is the standard UTM coordinates
> without the MGRS latitude bands. I have been considering adding
> another function that provides the alternative UTM with MGRS latitude
> bands.
>
> If anyone has any suggestions on the best way to present these two
> different UTM versions that helps to avoid ambiguity, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Calvin
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 2:19 PM Eric Sorensen <e.b.s at me.com
> <mailto:e.b.s at me.com>> wrote:
>
> As Greg and others point out, I appear to be using the UTM zone
> term inappropriately. My apologies.
>
> What I am after in my label, is the MGRS flavor that includes the
> latitude band, and agrees with the image shown in this link;
>
> https://docs.qgis.org/3.4/en/_images/utm_zones.png
> <https://docs.qgis.org/3.4/en/_images/utm_zones.png>
>
> After you folks successfully educated me on this, I came up with
> the following;
>
> concat(name, ', ', mgrs_gzd($Y, $X), ' ', format_number(utm_east(
> $Y, $X), 0), ' ', format_number(utm_north( $Y, $X), 0))
>
> Which gets me a label like this for the point I originally supplied;
> Park, 13S 384,258 3,974,547
>
> This is how my Garmin GPS displays coordinates of waypoints (sans
> the commas), and how someone would input the point into their gps,
> after I hand them a map I have created in QGIS. Now to eliminate
> the commas.
>
> Thank you all for your input,
> es
>
>
>> On Feb 6, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com
>> <mailto:gdt at lexort.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Eric Sorensen <e.b.s at me.com <mailto:e.b.s at me.com>> writes:
>>
>>> <wpt lat="35.908381976187229" lon="-106.282681999728084">
>>> <ele>2262.188964999999826</ele>
>>
>>> The labels appear as expected, except one small problem. I know
>>> the points are in UTM zone 13S, yet the label shows zone 13N.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on what I am doing wrong.
>>
>> That latitude is north, and in New Mexico. Why do you think it's
>> zone
>> 13S?
>>
>> <pause to read>
>>
>> Beware of the confusion between grid zones from MGRS, not technically
>> part of UTM, and UTM north/south. See
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Transverse_Mercator_coordinate_system#Notation
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Transverse_Mercator_coordinate_system#Notation>
>>
>> So it seems the UTM output uses S and N -- which is what I would
>> expect
>> for straight UTM without a MGRS flavor.
>>
>> If you moved north, you could be in 13T, from 40-48 degrees, and not
>> have this issue, but then you'd have more snow :-)
>>
>
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Nicolas Cadieux
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