[Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

Ari Meyer ari.meyer at gmail.com
Thu Feb 24 13:17:56 PST 2022 

I do agree that such a boycott is problematic, in the same way that
boycotting apolitical Chinese organizations for China's crimes against
humanity is problematic.  But I do agree with Markus that Russia's actions
here are abominable.  I think a reasonable compromise, FWIW, could be that
Russian QGIS devs/users, at least those in the diaspora,
unequivocally condemn Russian aggression and declare solidarity with
Ukraine, or make some similar declaration.
Ari

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 1:49 PM Jeff Sonnentag <jsonnentag at llenviroinc.com>
wrote:

> You can have another "Fully agreed with Andreas" from here. . . .
>
> Would you be overjoyed and supportive of a "boycott" of QGIS if it comes
> out anybody in any war is using it for mapping stuff?
>
> People could come up with all kinds of places considered "civilized" that
> went/are way off the tracks on COVID BS.  Want to ban participation of all
> the other people who live under tyrants too?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Qgis-user <qgis-user-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> On Behalf Of Paolo
> Cavallini
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 4:53 AM
> To: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia
>
> Fully agreed with Andreas. We try to make the world a better, more free
> place by developing QGIS with a free and open source licence, let's stick
> to this and welcome any contribution.
> Cheers.
>
> Il 24/02/22 13:29, Andreas Neumann ha scritto:
> > Dear Markus,
> >
> > This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree
> > that the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am
> > against excluding Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If
> > we start excluding countries and organizations on such assumptions -
> > where do we draw the line? The majority of today's world population
> > unfortunately has to live in problematic conditions, when it concerns
> > democracy and dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what
> > is ethical use of QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing QGIS
> > software allowed, as an example?
> >
> > As the current QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG> treasurer I can say that we
> > had a sustaining member from Russia last year - there is no indication
> > that this company is collaborating with the Putin government - though
> > it is of course a bit hard to judge - of course - for outsiders.
> >
> > The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from
> > Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian
> > population would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be
> > involved in such war and aggression. But do they have a real choice?
> > Fair elections? I doubt it ... In that sense I am against excluding
> > Russian QGIS users and contributors based on these events.
> >
> > We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by
> > this aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian
> > refugees in the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can
> > soon be deescalated.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Andreas
> >
> > On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, landconsult at freenet.de
> > <mailto:landconsult at freenet.de> <landconsult at freenet.de
> > <mailto:landconsult at freenet.de>> wrote:
> >
> >     Dear List,
> >
> >     like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian
> >     invasion in Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free
> >     world and especially on Europe and on all values of freedom which we
> >     all represent in a global, peaceful open source community.
> >
> >     - So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom?
> >     - What can the QGIS community do?
> >     - How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be used
> >     for Russian military purposes against the Ukraine?
> >
> >     The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament which
> >     is the representative body of the Russian people. Consequently the
> >     Russian population bears responsibility for the invasion and we
> >     should led them know, that military force against an independent,
> >     free and democratic European country goes against all the values ​​
> >     we stand for in the open source community.
> >
> >     The least we can do is starting to think about a boycott of Russian
> >     products and Russian co-operations to express our opinion to all
> >     Russian companies and partners we know. Finally its up to the
> >     ordinary Russian man to change this unbearable situation which is
> >     becoming a permanent threat to free Europe.
> >
> >     With this respect the QGIS developer community should also think
> >     about excluding Russian partners and sponsors from all QGIS
> >     activities as long as Russian troops are in the Ukraine.
> >
> >     I think, the values of freedom we stand for, is the highest good we
> >     must defend!
> >
> >     How do you think about it?
> >
> >     Very concerned greeting.
> >
> >     Markus Weidenbach
> >     landConsult.de
> >     Bühl/Germany
> >
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