[Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia
Shinoto, PD Dr. Maria
maria.shinoto at zaw.uni-heidelberg.de
Thu Feb 24 22:02:19 PST 2022
Yes, this is not the time for business as usual.
Not knowing what to do from far away in Japan, but thinking of you all since yesterday all day long,
Maria -- sure, I am not the only one who feels like that!
> Am 25.02.2022 um 13:55 schrieb Alexander Bruy <alexander.bruy at gmail.com>:
>
> Thanks Markus and all those who support us and have bravery to name
> things with their real names.
>
> For those who want to make business as usual even during the hot phase
> of war I wish you will never
> experience their friendship, welcomeness and cooperation.
>
> Greetings from burning Ukraine, which is already "a better, more free place".
>
> пт, 25 лют. 2022 р. о 01:27 Shinoto, PD Dr. Maria
> <maria.shinoto at zaw.uni-heidelberg.de> пише:
>>
>> Dear Markus, Andreas, and dear list,
>>
>> yesterday evening I saw Markus post, and planned to send a reply this morning because it was worth a second thought.
>>
>> I can understand Markus feelings, but I am, like the others, more on Andreas' side of opinion. I want to thank Markus for your courage to bring this topic to a discussion. It needs courage, and I appreciate both of your posts very much.
>>
>> Wishing peace for Ukraina, and a just and good peace at that.
>>
>> Greetings from Japan,
>> Maria
>>
>>
>>> Am 24.02.2022 um 21:29 schrieb Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org>:
>>>
>>> Dear Markus,
>>>
>>> This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree that the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am against excluding Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If we start excluding countries and organizations on such assumptions - where do we draw the line? The majority of today's world population unfortunately has to live in problematic conditions, when it concerns democracy and dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what is ethical use of QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing QGIS software allowed, as an example?
>>>
>>> As the current QGIS.ORG treasurer I can say that we had a sustaining member from Russia last year - there is no indication that this company is collaborating with the Putin government - though it is of course a bit hard to judge - of course - for outsiders.
>>>
>>> The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian population would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be involved in such war and aggression. But do they have a real choice? Fair elections? I doubt it ... In that sense I am against excluding Russian QGIS users and contributors based on these events.
>>>
>>> We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by this aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian refugees in the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can soon be deescalated.
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, landconsult at freenet.de <landconsult at freenet.de> wrote:
>>> Dear List,
>>>
>>> like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian invasion in Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free world and especially on Europe and on all values of freedom which we all represent in a global, peaceful open source community.
>>>
>>> - So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom?
>>> - What can the QGIS community do?
>>> - How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be used for Russian military purposes against the Ukraine?
>>>
>>> The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament which is the representative body of the Russian people. Consequently the Russian population bears responsibility for the invasion and we should led them know, that military force against an independent, free and democratic European country goes against all the values we stand for in the open source community.
>>>
>>> The least we can do is starting to think about a boycott of Russian products and Russian co-operations to express our opinion to all Russian companies and partners we know. Finally its up to the ordinary Russian man to change this unbearable situation which is becoming a permanent threat to free Europe.
>>>
>>> With this respect the QGIS developer community should also think about excluding Russian partners and sponsors from all QGIS activities as long as Russian troops are in the Ukraine.
>>>
>>> I think, the values of freedom we stand for, is the highest good we must defend!
>>>
>>> How do you think about it?
>>>
>>> Very concerned greeting.
>>>
>>> Markus Weidenbach
>>> landConsult.de
>>> Bühl/Germany
>>>
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