[Qgis-user] [Qgis-voting-members] Call For Community Voting members ballot
Germán Carrillo
carrillo.german at gmail.com
Fri Nov 22 07:35:08 PST 2024
(Re-sending my response because I think we lost some Cc mailing-lists in
the thread)
El vie, 22 nov 2024 a las 9:57, Germán Carrillo (<carrillo.german at gmail.com>)
escribió:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Thanks for raising this topic.
>
> First of all, thanks to all of you for being elected as community voting
> member. It means a lot to me because I've loved this project and its
> community since almost a couple of decades ago!
>
> On the other hand, I agree with making it explicit that a community member
> cannot be representing a user group at the same time for the sake of
> transparency and diversity.
> If I had to step down as user group representative in order to accept the
> new community voting membership, I'd be willing to do so.
> Please let me know if/when that's official/agreed, so that I can ask the
> Colombian user group to communicate a new representative person to the PSC.
>
> Regards,
>
> Germán
>
>
> El vie, 22 nov 2024 a las 9:12, Raymond Nijssen via Qgis-voting-members (<
> qgis-voting-members at lists.osgeo.org>) escribió:
>
>> Maybe we can make it more transparent by listing what the user groups
>> have voted for, together with the election results?
>>
>> For us in NL, they should not be secret anyway, as they have been
>> discussed online in our chat group. And then "my" users can see that I
>> really voted for what we agreed on.
>>
>> Also save me from the struggle of being integer! ;)
>>
>> Raymond
>>
>>
>> On 22-11-2024 12:18, Matthias Kuhn via Qgis-voting-members wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > According to
>> > https://www.qgis.org/community/organisation/#country-voting-members
>> > <https://www.qgis.org/community/organisation/#country-voting-members>
>> > the country voting members should represent the interest of the country
>> > group and not their personal one, whereas as a community voting member
>> > someone represents their personal opinion. I do see some potential
>> > conflict of interest, but not a strong one as the two votes represent
>> > different entities (through the same messenger).
>> >
>> > A question with respect to operation of such a potential rule would be
>> > if being a country voting member would exclude someone from also
>> > becoming a community voting member. Or if they will need to step back
>> > from their country voting member position and the user group will need
>> > to elect someone new. The first option would reduce the motivation for
>> > someone to become a country voting member (because it rules out
>> becoming
>> > community voting member). The second option will require that the
>> > country user group receives a timeframe to organize a new election.
>> >
>> > Matthias
>> >
>> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 11:38 AM Andreas Neumann via
>> Qgis-voting-members
>> > <qgis-voting-members at lists.osgeo.org
>> > <mailto:qgis-voting-members at lists.osgeo.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I agree with Stefanos.
>> >
>> > People shouldn't have two votes - both as a user group and a
>> > community voting member. They should be exclusive.
>> >
>> > BTW: Isabel isn't the chair of the Swiss QGIS user group anymore.
>> > She handed over to François Voisard 1-2 years ago. I hope that
>> > François received the voting invitation and not Isabel. I will
>> > provide a PR request to fix the QGIS user group website.
>> >
>> > Greetings,
>> >
>> > Andreas
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 at 09:31, Stefanos Natsis via QGIS-User
>> > <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Marco, lists
>> >
>> > While I trust German and the Colombian user group's democratic
>> > procedures for delivering a vote to their representative, I
>> > deeply believe that having the same person as both a country
>> > voting member and a community voting member is a step in the
>> > wrong direction.
>> > It defeats the purpose of the Community Voting Members concept,
>> > which is to bring in more people to the QGIS commons and have a
>> > diverse pool of voters in the general meeting.
>> > Imagine the case where all country user groups had the same
>> > person as both a representative and a community voting member.
>> > In addition to that, one could also be OSGEO voting member and
>> > Honorary voting member too, casting a total of 4 votes! In
>> > theory one could have the integrity to cast four independent
>> > votes, but it would surely not look good to the public and we
>> > should protect the project from such scenarios.
>> >
>> > I therefore suggest that the PSC amends the Charter [0],
>> > explicitly making all four types of voting members as mutually
>> > exclusive positions, similar to how voting member and PSC
>> > positions are already mutually exclusive.
>> >
>> > I am sure the Colombian, French and Swiss user groups have
>> > plenty of members that can step up to replace their
>> representatives.
>> >
>> > I would love to read others' opinions on the matter!
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Stefanos
>> >
>> >
>> > [0] https://qgis.org/community/foundation/charter/
>> > <https://qgis.org/community/foundation/charter/>
>> >
>> > On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 at 18:45, Marco Bernasocchi <marco at qgis.org
>> > <mailto:marco at qgis.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey Stefanos,
>> > That is correct, German is already listed as the
>> > *representative* of the user group Colombia.
>> > The UG Colombia vote is obviously not his vote but the vote
>> > of the Colombian user group.
>> >
>> > That means that he will be listed twice as we already have
>> > for other members loke Harrissou and France.
>> >
>> > Cheers Marco
>> >
>> > On Thu, 7 Nov 2024, 02:12 Stefanos Natsis,
>> > <uclaros at gmail.com <mailto:uclaros at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thank you Marco,
>> > and thank you to those taking the time to vote;
>> > participating in commons is an important part of the
>> > QGIS community.
>> >
>> > I have a question regarding the ballot, though:
>> > The new QGIS website says Germán is already a voting
>> > member as a representative of the Colombian user group.
>> > Is the site not up to date? Was the user group disbanded
>> > (I can see they lost their registered domain)?
>> >
>> > Best
>> > Stefanos
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 at 23:03, Marco Bernasocchi
>> > <marco at qgis.org <mailto:marco at qgis.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Community,
>> > Thanks for taking the time to respond to the
>> > community member vote.
>> > The vote closed last week, and I want to share the
>> > unofficial results.
>> >
>> > As stated, we had four slots up for elections and
>> > five candidates.
>> >
>> > We had 20 votes with the following results
>> >
>> > Germán Carrillo 19
>> > Stefanos Natsis 16
>> > Isabel Kiefer 16
>> > Damiano Lombardi 15
>> > Saber Razmjooei 14
>> >
>> > I'm still waiting for a response from two voters I
>> > could not confirm as active QGIS contributors, so
>> > **these results still need to be considered
>> > unofficial**.
>> > If the voters were not confirmed as active, the only
>> > absolute difference would be that Damiano would have
>> > the same votes as Saber, and we would need to run a
>> > second round between them.
>> >
>> > In this sense, I would already heartfeltly welcome
>> > Germán, Stefanos, and Isabel to our voting members
>> > community. Thank you so much for all you do for the
>> > project!
>> >
>> > I'll follow up with the definitive results next week
>> > with the next steps needed.
>> >
>> > Cheers Marco
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 at 00:35, Marco Bernasocchi
>> > <marco at qgis.org <mailto:marco at qgis.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear QGIS Community
>> >
>> > We invite you to elect your favourite community
>> > voting members.
>> > One community voting member is appointed in
>> > tandem with each QGIS Country User Group Voting
>> > Member.
>> >
>> > Due to the new usergroups, 4 Community member
>> > spot are be up for election.
>> >
>> >
>> > The purpose of the voting members is to elect
>> > the PSC and, where necessary, collectively make
>> > decisions related to QGIS governance.
>> >
>> > Please read the instructions carefully and
>> > establish your eligibility to vote, which I
>> > repeat here for your convenience:
>> > "Only community members with commit rights to an
>> > official QGIS git repository or with write
>> > access in transifex are eligible to vote
>> nominees”
>> >
>> >
>> > Voting will close on Friday 25 October 2024
>> > 23:59UTC.
>> > The voting form is here:
>> > https://forms.gle/64zomCdCtccHQqfp8
>> > <https://forms.gle/64zomCdCtccHQqfp8>
>> >
>> > If you have any questions about the voting
>> > process, please do not hesitate to contact me
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Marco
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Marco Bernasocchi
>> >
>> > QGIS.org Chair
>> > OPENGIS.ch CEO
>> > http://berna.io <http://berna.io>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Marco Bernasocchi
>> >
>> > QGIS.org Chair
>> > OPENGIS.ch CEO
>> > http://berna.io <http://berna.io>
>> >
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