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    That's unfortunate. Good to know its repeatable.  At least the
    problem has been isolated and we know what's required to get it
    fixed (or so I think).<br>
    <br>
    Time to find some professional help. I'll keep you informed.<br>
    <br>
    Brett<br>
    <br>
    On 5/10/2010 11:36 AM, Roland Hill wrote:
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      <font size="+1"><small>Brett,<br>
          <br>
          I am using Linux and from a previous email I think Ken is as
          well. Yes,
          it is working on my Linux system.<br>
          <br>
          I tried installing QGIS onto a Windows 7 system using both the
          Standalone and OsGeo installers. In both cases I couldn't get
          it to
          work correctly. The standalone installer version placed AGD66
          and GDA94
          versions of my test point 11m apart when it should be more
          like 200m.
          The OsGeo version just refused to display the AGD66 point.<br>
          <br>
          I am not sure where to go with it on Windows. I haven't used
          it for a
          long time. Maybe someone more familiar with the Windows setup
          can help.<br>
          <br>
          Cheers,<br>
          <br>
          Roland<br>
          <br>
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          <strong><font color="#000080" face="Arial">ROLAND HILL</font></strong><br>
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      On 04/10/10 17:06, Brett Adams wrote:
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        Roland / Ken,<br>
        <br>
        Sorry to disappear like that. Got called into the dessert for a
        few
        days.<br>
        <br>
        I tried loading these new files up but can't get them to work.
        All
        three projections are now plotting in exactly the same place.  <br>
        <br>
        Ran a search on the QGIS directory and replaced the AGD84 /
        AGD66 gsb
        files with the new ones. Also replaced the srs.db file.<br>
        <br>
        I'm assuming you both got this to work. Am I missing a step?<br>
        <br>
        Brett<br>
        <br>
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        On 24/09/2010 7:25 PM, Roland Hill wrote:
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          <small><font size="+1"><small>Ken / Brett,<br>
                <br>
                The only thing we know for certain is that we are all
                out of our
                depths! Regardless, I think we are on the way to solving
                this.<br>
                <br>
                Please find a new srs.db here <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9546967/srs.db">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9546967/srs.db</a>.
                The new file incorporates both towgs84 parameters and a
                reference to
                the distortion files. The distortion file values appear
                to take
                precedence, but I have included the towgs84 parameters
                as it looks like
                the AGD84 distortion files do not cover the states and
                territories that
                did not adopt AGD84. Note that I have changed the AGD66
                towgs84
                parameters to national ones (previously ACT) according
                to this document
                (page 31) <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                  href="http://www.icsm.gov.au/gda/gdatm/gdav2.3.pdf">http://www.icsm.gov.au/gda/gdatm/gdav2.3.pdf</a>.<br>
                <br>
                To use the distortion files you need to place these
                files <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9546967/agd66.gsb">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9546967/agd66.gsb</a>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9546967/agd84.gsb">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9546967/agd84.gsb</a>
                in your Proj data directory (/usr/share/proj on Linux).
                It is the
                directory containing the 'epsg' and 'proj_def.dat'
                files. Make sure
                that this is the directory your Proj installation is
                actually using by
                checking the contents of the PROJ_LIB environment
                variable (echo
                $PROJ_LIB). It may not be set, which is OK. It took me
                about 4 hours to
                figure out I had set it to an old development directory
                several years
                ago!<br>
                <br>
                Note that I did try it without the +wktext parameter. It
                works in Proj
                (using cs2cs), but QGIS needs it.<br>
                <br>
                Let me know how it goes on your test points.<br>
                <br>
                Cheers,<br>
                <br>
                Roland<br>
                <br>
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          On 24/09/10 07:27, Ken Norris wrote:
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            <pre wrap="">Roland, 

I incorporated your srs.db but the translation falls about 30m short (in
Melbourne) and about the same distance out at a control point in southern
Tasmania. 

I see you use the National parameters that '... have an estimated accuracy
of about 1 metre.' and are most accurate around Canberra (surprise).
Geoscience recommend use of their distortion tables (xxx.gsb) for more
accurate work Australia-wide.

Can you incorporate the parameter reference to the distortion tables in the
srs.db? I, like Brett, am out of my depth here.

Regards
Ken
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