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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Hi Kari,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Yes we do support – bugfixing/testing, make blog with help/tutorials, co-translating into Danish language and next in May 2015 we host the hackfest for the developers.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">We also try to convince others to do the same
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Lene<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:DA"> </span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:DA">Fra:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:DA"> Kari
Salovaara [mailto:kari.salovaara@pp1.inet.fi] <br>
<b>Sendt:</b> 21. juli 2014 17:50<br>
<b>Til:</b> Lene Fischer; qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org; qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Emne:</b> Re: [Qgis-user] Stress about release plans<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Lene,<br>
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Does Your proposal mean that those universities, which start to use QGIS and QGIS based material for education, start to support QGIS development financially and with other resources like man power for testing, fixing etc. ?<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Kari<br>
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On 07/21/2014 06:35 PM, Lene Fischer wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Hi,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">This is not a mail about bugs or issues on a special feature – just a matter of time.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Right now I´m preparing a 3 week intensive GIS course at university level - looking forward to these annual events. But I get stressed when I see that there are only 94 days until next version of QGIS. Because in November
I start over again with a 8 week course and in February a 3 week course, in may a 3 week course. All in all we have more than 140 students learning QGIS every year – and they are impressed of this program!!!
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">I love getting new features in the program, but fear the work to run through every assignment, every video and being a bit unsure how the program works in the latest version on the different platforms.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Small changes which I haven´t noticed and therefore unaware of. So a new version so soon gives me a lot of stress and so many hours of work – hours which could be used to ex. testing.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">When I ask users to download the program they take the official latest version – sometimes with bugs included… It gives an impression of an unprofessional product (not my words), it gives me- and others hard times
to fix or explain. I´ve been talking to other users/administrators who has the same experience.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">What if we had :</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">A long term stable version for ex. 12 months with bugfix only</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">A developer version for 4 months with new features and bugfixes => Stable version with short bugfix-period => New developer……..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">I do know it will give the developers more work – I do know it will cost more money – But I´m sure a lot of administrators will recommend, use and support if we get a more stable environment.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">So please – consider another release plan in the future.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:DA">University of Copenhagen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:DA">MOB +45 40115084</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>Kari Salovaara<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Hanko, Finland<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>"Volunteers do not necessarily have the time; they just have the heart."<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> ~ Elizabeth Andrew<o:p></o:p></pre>
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