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id="Immagine_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CFF918.3129D470"></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>Geopaparazzi:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Latitude Ref North<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Latitude 45.543404 degrees<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Longitude Ref East<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Longitude 8.072008 degrees<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Altitude 419 m<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Time Stamp 15:13:20<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Img Direction 187.56<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Date Stamp 2014:11:05<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Essentials:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Latitude Ref North<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Latitude 45.543367 degrees<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Longitude Ref East<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Longitude 8.072114 degrees<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Altitude Ref Above Sea Level<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Altitude 368.3999938 m<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Speed Ref km/h<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Speed 0.071999998<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>GPS Date Stamp 2014:11:05<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'>The only problem is where to find images in the phone directories…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Ciao<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Emanuele<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:standard'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Da:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> qgis-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:qgis-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>Per conto di </b>Randal Hale<br><b>Inviato:</b> mercoledì 5 novembre 2014 14:57<br><b>A:</b> qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org; zoltans@geograph.co.za<br><b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [Qgis-user] Android Camera App with compass bearing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hopefully this isn't going too off topic - so last year found me in the Caribbean working on an addressing project. <br><br>I ended up using the Fulcrum app (not free) but it's really really good. I used it in conjunction with QGIS and PostGIS. Everything is stored in the "cloud" and you can download it in just about any format. <br><br>Take a look at this: <a href="http://fulcrumapp.com/blog/viewing-photo-metadata/">http://fulcrumapp.com/blog/viewing-photo-metadata/</a> it seems as though it now is collecting direction (I need to go test this). <br><br>Randy<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 11/05/2014 08:39 AM, Zoltan Szecsei wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<br>Thanks for the thought - but see orange text below: Does not write bearing into EXIF fields.<br>Regards,<br>Zoltan<br><br>On 2014/11/05 12:17, Lene Fischer wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>GPS Essentials - App<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Regards<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Lene<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Fra: <a href="mailto:qgis-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">qgis-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a> [<a href="mailto:qgis-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:qgis-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] På vegne af Zoltan Szecsei<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sendt: 5. november 2014 07:02<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Til: <a href="mailto:tech@wildintellect.com">tech@wildintellect.com</a>; <a href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org">qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Emne: Re: [Qgis-user] Android Camera App with compass bearing<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Hi Alex/All,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Thanks for the thoughts - my comments interspersed with your.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Zoltan<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>On 2014/11/04 23:17, Alex Mandel wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>On 11/04/2014 04:55 AM, Zoltan Szecsei wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Hi,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>I need to do a field trip and take some photos.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>I've been googling around, but cannot find an app that will burn both <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>GPS position _and compass bearing_ into either the image, or just the <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>exif data for that image.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Anyone got any experience in this need?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Thanks & regards,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Zoltan<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote><pre>Maybe, <a href="http://geopaparazzi.github.io/geopaparazzi/">http://geopaparazzi.github.io/geopaparazzi/</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>"georeferenced and orientated pictures"<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>And now my long rant before I remembered the above link...<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre><b><span style='color:#FF6600'>I manually downloaded the latest version (newer than that on Play Store) and it still does not record bearing</span></b> - even though the app does have a bearing tool.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>I checked the website and recording bearing into EXIF is not even on the developer's long wish-list I have emailed the developer, with a hope to at least get it onto the wish-list.<o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>GPS data is an on/off toggle on most Android devices. Bearing does <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>appear possible according to the exif specs, but in practice is rare.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/%7Ephil/exiftool/TagNames/GPS.html">http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/TagNames/GPS.html</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre>Yes, I checked that last night too - TAGs 0x0017 and 0x0018 relate to bearing info.<o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>However I don't see any obvious apps for telling the phone you want to <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>capture that. I'm also not sure all phones are capable of calculating <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>bearing when not moving.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>So my suggested work around would be a GPS Logging application of <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>which there are several. Then you can pull the bearing calculation out <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>after the fact, if it was while moving.<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre>Sigh, nope.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>(In my kind of) Field trip data collection (& photography) often involves driving to a feature, leaning out the car window and taking a snap-shot, so recording moving direction will not help at all.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Note that bearing accuracy is NOT that critical, it needs only to be reasonably indicative.<o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>If stationary, you might need to write your own app which lets users <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>indicate which way they were facing when taking a picture. For someone <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>who's made an Android application I don't think this is hard.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/sensors/sensors_overview.htm">http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/sensors/sensors_overview.htm</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>l Indicates all version of Android support the Magentic sensor.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>This example shows how to get the bearing from the API <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://www.codeofaninja.com/2013/08/android-compass-code-example.html">https://www.codeofaninja.com/2013/08/android-compass-code-example.html</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>So GPS+Orientation+Camera should be all required.<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre>Yep, true, but the purpose of this thread is to see if this wheel has already been invented :-)<o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Kinda busts my GPS logging idea, since the bearing information comes <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>from a different sensor than the GPS it won't be in the NMEA strings <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>even if you captured them.<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre>What? You not 'hard core' enough to intercept the NMEA stream and insert "bearing-on-the-fly" by back-calculating the incoming coords?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>(Just pulling your leg - thanks for your interest in this topic :-) )<o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Alex<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>===========================================<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Zoltan Szecsei PrGISc [PGP0031]<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Geograph (Pty) Ltd.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>GIS and Photogrammetric Services<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>P.O. Box 7, Muizenberg 7950, South Africa.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Mobile: +27-83-6004028<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Fax: +27-86-6115323 <a href="http://www.geograph.co.za">www.geograph.co.za</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>===========================================<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Qgis-user mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org">Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>-----------------<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Randal Hale<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>North River Geographic Systems, Inc<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.northrivergeographic.com">http://www.northrivergeographic.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>423.653.3611 <a href="mailto:rjhale@northrivergeographic.com">rjhale@northrivergeographic.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>twitter:rjhale <a href="http://about.me/rjhale">http://about.me/rjhale</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.northrivergeographic.com/spatial-connect">http://www.northrivergeographic.com/spatial-connect</a><o:p></o:p></pre></div></body></html>