<p dir="ltr">Hi,</p>
<p dir="ltr">The problems seems more that the standard has not been explicitly written. If I understand the last comment thought about QGIS, It seams that QGIS does try to repack the file when closing it to make it compatible with Esri's way of deleting geometries... That may be where the current deleting problems, if any, originates from...<br><br></p>
<p dir="ltr">Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc.<br>
Les Entreprises Archéotec inc. <br>
8548, rue Saint-Denis Montréal H2P 2H2<br>
Téléphone: 514.381.5112 Fax: 514.381.4995<br>
www.archeotec.ca</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 3, 2016 11:40 AM, "Springfield Harrison [via OSGeo.org] " <<a href="/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5248727&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]</a>> wrote:<br type='attribution'><blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em' class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">If I understand the technical aspects correctly (marking shapes with a * rather than actually deleting them), the problem seems to be departing from the shapefile "standard". </p>
<p dir="ltr">One of QGIS's strengths should be interoperability rather than inventing one off, wierd standards to frustrate compatibility. </p>
<p dir="ltr">I don't think this is behind the failure to save problem but is concerning nonetheless . . . .</p>
<p dir="ltr">Cheers . . . . . Spring<br />
Samsung Tab 4</p>
<div class="elided-text">On Feb 3, 2016 12:40 AM, "Uwe Fischer" <<a href="/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5248715&i=0">[hidden email]</a>> wrote:<br /><div><div><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79">Spring,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79">it seems to me like there are various errors in editing shapefiles in QGIS 2.10 and 2.12. Some weeks ago, I reported an error that does not allow for proper feature deleting. The shapes I deleted were gone in QGIS, but they were still present in ArcMap.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79">Matthias Kuhn wrote in this context:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79">Hi<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79">I just received a confirmation that Marco is working on a fix for this issue and targets the 2.14 release.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79">GDAL 2.0 would still be nice to also have the geometry issue fixed :)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79">Best regards<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79">--<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79">Matthias Kuhn<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79">If it turns out that your problems come from the same origin, maybe it’s time now to disable shapefile editing in QGIS until those problems are solved.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79">Maybe someone more competent than me can give information to the list on the troubleshooting status? QGIS is such an outstanding piece of software, we’d love to see that errors disappear!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79">Mit freundlichen Grüßen,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;font-variant:small-caps;color:#1f4e79">Uwe Fischer<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:#1f4e79"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' , sans-serif">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' , sans-serif"> Qgis-user [mailto:<a href="/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5248715&i=1">[hidden email]</a>] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Springfield Harrison<br /><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 3. Februar 2016 07:30<br /><b>An:</b> Nicolas Cadieux <<a href="/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5248715&i=2">[hidden email]</a>><br /><b>Cc:</b> qgis-user <<a href="/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5248715&i=3">[hidden email]</a>><br /><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Qgis-user] New Shapefile Features Fail to Save<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><u></u> <u></u></p><p>Thanks for those ideas. I can check off most of those items except upgrading. This is new development so likely computer based? Rather than QGIS. <u></u><u></u></p><p>I'll look at the bug reports; this is a pretty serious error. Thank you . . . . . .<u></u><u></u></p><p>Cheers . . . . . Spring<br />Samsung Tab 4<u></u><u></u></p><div><p>On Feb 2, 2016 7:15 PM, "Nicolas Cadieux" <<a href="/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5248715&i=4">[hidden email]</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><p>Hi,<br />I have done this in the past without errors in QGIS. I would upgrade to the latest version. Then to figure out where the problem is, I would:<u></u><u></u></p><p>Make sure that both layer are polygon layers (and not lines and polygons), that both have the same CRS (along with the project CRS), that both have the same fields and that the "receiving layer" is in editing mode, and saved subsequently. I would limited the amount of open files and open plugins.<u></u><u></u></p><p>Try copying polygons from a newly created file to an empty newly created layer in QGIS and not a shapefile that was previously manipulated in other softwares. All this could help you find the source of the problem. <u></u><u></u></p><p>I would also look at the bug reports to see if it is an issue for that version. <u></u><u></u></p><p>Hope this helps.<u></u><u></u></p><p>Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc.<br />Les Entreprises Archéotec inc. <br />8548, rue Saint-Denis Montréal H2P 2H2<br />Téléphone: <a href="tel:514.381.5112" target="_blank">514.381.5112 Fax: <a href="tel:514.381.4995" target="_blank">514.381.4995<br /><a href="http://www.archeotec.ca" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">www.archeotec.ca</a><u></u><u></u></p><div><p>On Feb 2, 2016 8:46 PM, "Springfield Harrison [via OSGeo.org] " <<a href="http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5248593&i=0">[hidden email]</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt">Hello Group,<br /><br /> Am using QGIS 2.10.1 and have done so without significant problems for many months. I am attempting to create simple polygons in a shapefile by direct vertex entry or copying polygons from another shapefile layer and pasting them into the active layer.<br /><br /> In almost every case, these features disappear. There is an entity entry in the attribute table but there are no polygons created. In one case a polygon was created but it was not the shape that I digitized; no more polygons could be created although the process for doing so appears to be working. No error messages were created. The CRS for the project and the shapefile are the same.<br /><br /> The shapefile can be opened in another GIS but has no content.<br /> <br /> Here are some product details: QGIS version 2.10.1-Pisa QGIS code revision <a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/commit/d20c5b7" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">d20c5b7</a><br /><br /> Thanks very much for any help you can render, Cheers . . . . . . . . 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