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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Nyall, Richard, and Andreas,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">For me it is all fine if you give the hint on funding, just like Andreas did, knowing whom he is talking to. And I think
he has a lot of valid points in his answer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Unfortunately, it is not always that simple, even for people using QGIS in bigger organizations, to mobilize money for
things they like to see implemented (believe me, I wish it was)... <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">On your list, Nyall, I would add Crowd funding as a fifth (and quite popular) way of getting things into QGIS. And of
course all fife can be mixed to some extent...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Anyway, keep up with your good work regardless if paid or voluntary. As I see it, the mix is what makes the project successful...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Stefan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Qgis-user [mailto:qgis-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nyall Dawson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 8. februar 2016 21:20<br>
<b>To:</b> Richard Duivenvoorde <richard@duif.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> qgis-user <qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"><br>
On 9 Feb 2016 12:47 AM, "Richard Duivenvoorde" <</span><a href="mailto:rdmailings@duif.net"><span lang="EN-US">rdmailings@duif.net</span></a><span lang="EN-US">> wrote:<br>
><br>
> On 08-02-16 14:37, Andreas Neumann wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > If this important to you - please consider sponsoring a dev to implement<br>
> > this. It can't be very complicated to implement.<br>
><br>
> Can we please(!) stop saying this all the time. I still hope(d) that<br>
> QGIS is a project where people work on a more or less idealistic way on<br>
> QGIS.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Well, the reality is that there's a very limited number of ways in which new features get implemented in QGIS:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">1. Write it yourself. (Requires knowledge of QGIS source and c++)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">2. Pay someone else to write it for you (requires money)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">3. Wait for someone else to write/pay for it (requires patience and hope that your request is something someone else really needs)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">4. Try to convince someone to donate their work/free time to do it for you (requires super levels of negotiating and finding the magic words to say to developers on irc/email/etc, or a project which is sufficiently interesting to attract
a developer's attention regardless.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">I don't think there's any other ways code gets added to QGIS.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">(Note that I'm *not* discounting all the non development volunteer/paid QGIS work, I'm just referring to how features can get added.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Given this, I think it's fine to direct people who request stuff to the most direct and reliable way to make changes happen - option 2 above. Just saying "file a feature request" alone isn't all that helpful (it's effectively options 3
or 4 above). It's also very helpful to also let them know how they can make these changes happen quickly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Nyall<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> Richard<br>
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