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1. Re: Editing a Postgis view (Carlo A. Bertelli (Charta s.r.l.))<br>
2. Re: Editing a Postgis view (Nyall Dawson)<br>
3. Re: Editing a Postgis view (Andrea Peri)<br>
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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 19:45:17 +0100<br>
From: "Carlo A. Bertelli (Charta s.r.l.)" <<a href="mailto:carlo.bertelli@gmail.com">carlo.bertelli@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: qgis-user <<a href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org">qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
Cc: Andrea Peri <<a href="mailto:aperi2007@gmail.com">aperi2007@gmail.com</a>>, Nyall Dawson<br>
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Thank you Nyall for fixing my "conservative" and unduly generalised<br>
assumption.<br>
A thought it was an older version, as updatable views handle<br>
rules/sequences with some careful nonchalance, especially for views on a<br>
table only.<br>
Unfortunately no database can handle logic problems at the conceptual<br>
level. I don't know if a future version of any RDBMS wil...<br>
c<br>
<br>
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Nyall Dawson <<a href="mailto:nyall.dawson@gmail.com">nyall.dawson@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
> On 17 Nov 2016 12:54 AM, "Carlo A. Bertelli (Charta s.r.l.)" <<br>
> <a href="mailto:carlo.bertelli@gmail.com">carlo.bertelli@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Ciao Andrea,<br>
> > by default Postgresql views are read only. Even the simplest view made<br>
> in Postgresql needs a rule to be updated.<br>
><br>
> That's not quite correct. Recent versions of postgres make simple views<br>
> editable.<br>
> See<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.depesz.com/2012/12/11/waiting-for-9-3-support-" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.depesz.com/2012/<wbr>12/11/waiting-for-9-3-support-</a><br>
> automatically-updatable-views/<br>
><br>
> Nyall<br>
><br>
> After writing a statement for a view, just take the habit of writing the<br>
> rules for insert, update, delete.<br>
> > Please read the chapter on the Rule System in the Postgresql Reference<br>
> Manual for the instructions.<br>
> > c<br>
> ><br>
> > Message: 6<br>
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 09:39:23 +0100<br>
> > From: Andrea Peri <<a href="mailto:aperi2007@gmail.com">aperi2007@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > To: Matthias Kuhn <<a href="mailto:matthias@opengis.ch">matthias@opengis.ch</a>><br>
> > Cc: qgis-user <<a href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org">qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
> > Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Editing a Postgis view<br>
> > Message-ID:<br>
> > <CABqTJk8Bo7fs6qOG=<wbr>MhO9N50qO5L+JkXAOAgik=tUGWwcKd<br>
> -<a href="mailto:WA@mail.gmail.com">WA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br>
> ><br>
> > Hi Matthias,<br>
> > thx for response.<br>
> > So the trouble is in my db.<br>
> ><br>
> > Now I try to understand better why it is not working.<br>
> ><br>
> > This is my actual try test:<br>
> ><br>
> > create table schemaapp.repository(<br>
> > ID serial primary key NOT NULL,<br>
> > UUID varchar(50) NOT NULL,<br>
> > PROGETTO varchar(9) NOT NULL,<br>
> > PROCEDIMENTO text NOT NULL,<br>
> > GEOMETRIA1 geometry(MULTIPOINT, 3003)<br>
> > );<br>
> ><br>
> > create view schemaapp.v_repository_point as<br>
> > select<br>
> > <a href="http://a.id" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">a.id</a> as id,<br>
> > a.uuid as uuid,<br>
> > a.progetto as progetto,<br>
> > a.procedimento as procedimento,<br>
> > a.geometria1 as geometria<br>
> > from<br>
> > schemappa.repository_wfs as a<br>
> > where<br>
> > a.geometria1 is not null;<br>
> ><br>
> > I will know if discover something.<br>
> > thx again.<br>
> ><br>
> > 2016-11-16 8:54 GMT+01:00 Matthias Kuhn <<a href="mailto:matthias@opengis.ch">matthias@opengis.ch</a>>:<br>
> > > Hi Andrea,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > It works here.<br>
> > > Do you have an instead of insert rule written on your view?<br>
> > > It works for me this way (but my views are too complicated for postgres<br>
> > > to create default insert rules by default anyway).<br>
> > > You can also try to alter your view with a default value for the column<br>
> > > in question.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Best regards<br>
> > > Matthias<br>
> > ><br>
> > > On 11/16/2016 08:15 AM, Andrea Peri wrote:<br>
> > >> Hi,<br>
> > >> I'm having some trouble to edit a postgis view using qgis.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> The view is a simple:<br>
> > >> select list-of-field from table1;<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> And the table1 is a table with a Primary key on a serial type field.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> I add the first record and all was ok. The commit too.<br>
> > >> When go to add the second record.<br>
> > >> I start to have trouble.<br>
> > >> The qgis report my always a constraint violation of the pk.<br>
> > >> I try to leave the pk field empty, or try to fill it with a value.<br>
> > >> No solution work.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> So my question is if is confirmed that qgis (I use the 2.18) version)<br>
> > >> is working in editing with a postgis view .<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Thx.<br>
> > >> A.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
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To: "Carlo A. Bertelli" <<a href="mailto:carlo.bertelli@gmail.com">carlo.bertelli@gmail.com</a>><br>
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On 17 Nov 2016 4:45 AM, "Carlo A. Bertelli (Charta s.r.l.)" <<br>
<a href="mailto:carlo.bertelli@gmail.com">carlo.bertelli@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Thank you Nyall for fixing my "conservative" and unduly generalised<br>
assumption.<br>
> A thought it was an older version, as updatable views handle<br>
rules/sequences with some careful nonchalance, especially for views on a<br>
table only.<br>
> Unfortunately no database can handle logic problems at the conceptual<br>
level. I don't know if a future version of any RDBMS wil...<br>
<br>
Yes, it's a nice feature, but the very limited requirements when this kicks<br>
in generally prevent it from being usable with real views.<br>
<br>
Nyall<br>
<br>
> c<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Nyall Dawson <<a href="mailto:nyall.dawson@gmail.com">nyall.dawson@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On 17 Nov 2016 12:54 AM, "Carlo A. Bertelli (Charta s.r.l.)" <<br>
<a href="mailto:carlo.bertelli@gmail.com">carlo.bertelli@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Ciao Andrea,<br>
>> > by default Postgresql views are read only. Even the simplest view made<br>
in Postgresql needs a rule to be updated.<br>
>><br>
>> That's not quite correct. Recent versions of postgres make simple views<br>
editable.<br>
>> See<br>
>><br>
>><br>
<a href="https://www.depesz.com/2012/12/11/waiting-for-9-3-support-automatically-updatable-views/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.depesz.com/2012/<wbr>12/11/waiting-for-9-3-support-<wbr>automatically-updatable-views/</a><br>
>><br>
>> Nyall<br>
>><br>
>> After writing a statement for a view, just take the habit of writing the<br>
rules for insert, update, delete.<br>
>> > Please read the chapter on the Rule System in the Postgresql Reference<br>
Manual for the instructions.<br>
>> > c<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Message: 6<br>
>> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 09:39:23 +0100<br>
>> > From: Andrea Peri <<a href="mailto:aperi2007@gmail.com">aperi2007@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > To: Matthias Kuhn <<a href="mailto:matthias@opengis.ch">matthias@opengis.ch</a>><br>
>> > Cc: qgis-user <<a href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org">qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
>> > Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Editing a Postgis view<br>
>> > Message-ID:<br>
>> > <CABqTJk8Bo7fs6qOG=<wbr>MhO9N50qO5L+JkXAOAgik=<br>
<a href="mailto:tUGWwcKd-WA@mail.gmail.com">tUGWwcKd-WA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Hi Matthias,<br>
>> > thx for response.<br>
>> > So the trouble is in my db.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Now I try to understand better why it is not working.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > This is my actual try test:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > create table schemaapp.repository(<br>
>> > ID serial primary key NOT NULL,<br>
>> > UUID varchar(50) NOT NULL,<br>
>> > PROGETTO varchar(9) NOT NULL,<br>
>> > PROCEDIMENTO text NOT NULL,<br>
>> > GEOMETRIA1 geometry(MULTIPOINT, 3003)<br>
>> > );<br>
>> ><br>
>> > create view schemaapp.v_repository_point as<br>
>> > select<br>
>> > <a href="http://a.id" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">a.id</a> as id,<br>
>> > a.uuid as uuid,<br>
>> > a.progetto as progetto,<br>
>> > a.procedimento as procedimento,<br>
>> > a.geometria1 as geometria<br>
>> > from<br>
>> > schemappa.repository_wfs as a<br>
>> > where<br>
>> > a.geometria1 is not null;<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I will know if discover something.<br>
>> > thx again.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 2016-11-16 8:54 GMT+01:00 Matthias Kuhn <<a href="mailto:matthias@opengis.ch">matthias@opengis.ch</a>>:<br>
>> > > Hi Andrea,<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > It works here.<br>
>> > > Do you have an instead of insert rule written on your view?<br>
>> > > It works for me this way (but my views are too complicated for<br>
postgres<br>
>> > > to create default insert rules by default anyway).<br>
>> > > You can also try to alter your view with a default value for the<br>
column<br>
>> > > in question.<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > Best regards<br>
>> > > Matthias<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > On 11/16/2016 08:15 AM, Andrea Peri wrote:<br>
>> > >> Hi,<br>
>> > >> I'm having some trouble to edit a postgis view using qgis.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> The view is a simple:<br>
>> > >> select list-of-field from table1;<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> And the table1 is a table with a Primary key on a serial type field.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> I add the first record and all was ok. The commit too.<br>
>> > >> When go to add the second record.<br>
>> > >> I start to have trouble.<br>
>> > >> The qgis report my always a constraint violation of the pk.<br>
>> > >> I try to leave the pk field empty, or try to fill it with a value.<br>
>> > >> No solution work.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> So my question is if is confirmed that qgis (I use the 2.18)<br>
version)<br>
>> > >> is working in editing with a postgis view .<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Thx.<br>
>> > >> A.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >><br>
>> > > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
>> > > Qgis-user mailing list<br>
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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 20:36:37 +0100<br>
From: Andrea Peri <<a href="mailto:aperi2007@gmail.com">aperi2007@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Nyall Dawson <<a href="mailto:nyall.dawson@gmail.com">nyall.dawson@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: qgis-user <<a href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org">qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>>, <a href="mailto:carlo.bertelli@gmail.com">carlo.bertelli@gmail.com</a>,<br>
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Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Editing a Postgis view<br>
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Thx for clarification.<br>
My postgres is a 9.5 version. This explain why it has writable view.<br>
<br>
So i Need to try the role Instead of sinpky and often used serial type for<br>
pk.<br>
<br>
A.<br>
<br>
Il 16 nov 2016 19:22, "Nyall Dawson" <<a href="mailto:nyall.dawson@gmail.com">nyall.dawson@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br>
<br>
> On 17 Nov 2016 12:54 AM, "Carlo A. Bertelli (Charta s.r.l.)" <<br>
> <a href="mailto:carlo.bertelli@gmail.com">carlo.bertelli@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Ciao Andrea,<br>
> > by default Postgresql views are read only. Even the simplest view made<br>
> in Postgresql needs a rule to be updated.<br>
><br>
> That's not quite correct. Recent versions of postgres make simple views<br>
> editable.<br>
> See<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.depesz.com/2012/12/11/waiting-for-9-3-support-" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.depesz.com/2012/<wbr>12/11/waiting-for-9-3-support-</a><br>
> automatically-updatable-views/<br>
><br>
> Nyall<br>
><br>
> After writing a statement for a view, just take the habit of writing the<br>
> rules for insert, update, delete.<br>
> > Please read the chapter on the Rule System in the Postgresql Reference<br>
> Manual for the instructions.<br>
> > c<br>
> ><br>
> > Message: 6<br>
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 09:39:23 +0100<br>
> > From: Andrea Peri <<a href="mailto:aperi2007@gmail.com">aperi2007@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > To: Matthias Kuhn <<a href="mailto:matthias@opengis.ch">matthias@opengis.ch</a>><br>
> > Cc: qgis-user <<a href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org">qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
> > Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Editing a Postgis view<br>
> > Message-ID:<br>
> > <CABqTJk8Bo7fs6qOG=<wbr>MhO9N50qO5L+JkXAOAgik=tUGWwcKd<br>
> -<a href="mailto:WA@mail.gmail.com">WA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br>
> ><br>
> > Hi Matthias,<br>
> > thx for response.<br>
> > So the trouble is in my db.<br>
> ><br>
> > Now I try to understand better why it is not working.<br>
> ><br>
> > This is my actual try test:<br>
> ><br>
> > create table schemaapp.repository(<br>
> > ID serial primary key NOT NULL,<br>
> > UUID varchar(50) NOT NULL,<br>
> > PROGETTO varchar(9) NOT NULL,<br>
> > PROCEDIMENTO text NOT NULL,<br>
> > GEOMETRIA1 geometry(MULTIPOINT, 3003)<br>
> > );<br>
> ><br>
> > create view schemaapp.v_repository_point as<br>
> > select<br>
> > <a href="http://a.id" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">a.id</a> as id,<br>
> > a.uuid as uuid,<br>
> > a.progetto as progetto,<br>
> > a.procedimento as procedimento,<br>
> > a.geometria1 as geometria<br>
> > from<br>
> > schemappa.repository_wfs as a<br>
> > where<br>
> > a.geometria1 is not null;<br>
> ><br>
> > I will know if discover something.<br>
> > thx again.<br>
> ><br>
> > 2016-11-16 8:54 GMT+01:00 Matthias Kuhn <<a href="mailto:matthias@opengis.ch">matthias@opengis.ch</a>>:<br>
> > > Hi Andrea,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > It works here.<br>
> > > Do you have an instead of insert rule written on your view?<br>
> > > It works for me this way (but my views are too complicated for postgres<br>
> > > to create default insert rules by default anyway).<br>
> > > You can also try to alter your view with a default value for the column<br>
> > > in question.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Best regards<br>
> > > Matthias<br>
> > ><br>
> > > On 11/16/2016 08:15 AM, Andrea Peri wrote:<br>
> > >> Hi,<br>
> > >> I'm having some trouble to edit a postgis view using qgis.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> The view is a simple:<br>
> > >> select list-of-field from table1;<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> And the table1 is a table with a Primary key on a serial type field.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> I add the first record and all was ok. The commit too.<br>
> > >> When go to add the second record.<br>
> > >> I start to have trouble.<br>
> > >> The qgis report my always a constraint violation of the pk.<br>
> > >> I try to leave the pk field empty, or try to fill it with a value.<br>
> > >> No solution work.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> So my question is if is confirmed that qgis (I use the 2.18) version)<br>
> > >> is working in editing with a postgis view .<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Thx.<br>
> > >> A.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
> > > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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