<div dir="ltr">This is an interesting discussion. I teach GIS classes at a small university in the U.S. and while I completely agree with the concept of teaching spatial concepts and not the software, in practice, this distinction doesn't eliminate the need to choose in a university setting. In practice GIS is taught through tutorials and tutorials are set up for particular programs. You can't expect beginning students to go from abstract concepts to multi-step analysis processes without some direction as to how to use the software. <div><br></div><div>Also, the students at my university get campus issued laptops that don't have space to run GIS software, so they have to work in the one campus computer lab where GIS is installed. I have to work with campus IT to make sure the software is properly installed and updated. When students log in, they don't have admin permissions so they can't choose to install QGIS if it isn't already installed.</div><div><br></div><div>I have be advocating for teaching open source software. But once students get used to one software, they don't want to go back and try to figure out another system. I did have students try out QGIS, but they weren't excited. I haven't used QGIS enough to discuss the differences and potential benefits in particular situations, other than accessibility and affordability. </div><div><br></div><div>It shouldn't be one software or another, but students need to have a reason to learn a new platform. I know there are some articles/posts online comparing, but I have never seen a class that actually integrated teaching with more than one platform. Beginning college students are usually frustrated enough just trying to understand one.</div><div><br></div><div>I would love to hear suggestions for approaches or resources. Also, many university instructors have a heavy teaching load and limited time to keep up with shifting software. I'm pretty much the only person at my U. that teaches GIS. I am being expected to teach everything related to geospatial technologies...so it is tough to stay up to date without introducing additional software to learn. I need to focus on how best to teach concepts not spend my time learning how to troubleshoot multiple software packages.</div><div><br></div><div>Innisfree</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Nicolas Cadieux <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nicolas.cadieux@archeotec.ca" target="_blank">nicolas.cadieux@archeotec.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div></div><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>This is a good question! My answer would be that students have a better chance of having a job if the learn GIS and not a software. The software is only a tool! If they have an ArcGIS licence at the university and can use it year round with the university, they could learn with that.</div><div><br></div><div>My experience is that afterwards, they will either pirate the software or abandons GIS because they cannot pay for the software. Also, more and more students are on Macs and ArcGIS will not work unless you have a dual boot, a virtual PC or a online licence.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, if you want to just use a software as a technician and make GIS research, you can use ArcGIS. If you want a really good paying job and want to be able learn how to develop software and develop GIS, then QGIS or OpenSource is the way to go!</div><div><br></div><div>To think that learning GIS = learning a software is short sighted. Would you trust a statistician if all he learned in university is how to use a particular software or would you prefer someone who really knows what statistics are all about???</div><div><br></div><div>Nicolas</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>Le 15 déc. 2016 à 14:18, Markus Weidenbach [via <a href="http://OSGeo.org" rel="nofollow" link="external" target="_blank">OSGeo.org</a>] <<a href="http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5300086&i=0" rel="nofollow" link="external" target="_blank">[hidden email]</a>> a écrit :<br><br></div></div></div><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #cccccc;padding:0 1em" type="cite"><div><div><div class="h5">
Dear List,<br>
<br>
I was asked to give a 5 days international GIS training course at
the university and proposed to do it with QGIS. The program leader
finally insisted on doing it with ArcGIS arguing that the students
had better chances to find a job knowing ArcGIS rather than QGIS.
This argumentation does not reflect my long professional experience
as a GIS consultant at all!<br>
But how can I proof that knowing QGIS is the better choice for young
GIS professionals than ArcGIS (or at least that both systems are
equally suited)? <br>
Does anybody know any official numbers of GIS users worldwide or on
the worldwide application of QGIS over ArcGIS?<br>
<br>
I know the Master thesis from Boku Vienna
(<a class="m_3174515659770974649moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://geoobserver.wordpress.com/2016/02/09/arcgis-vs-qgis/" rel="nofollow" link="external" target="_blank">https://geoobserver.<wbr>wordpress.com/2016/02/09/<wbr>arcgis-vs-qgis/</a>) but
it is focused on a technical comparison of both systems only.<br>
Also the link
<a class="m_3174515659770974649moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.g2crowd.com/grid_report/documents/gis-winter-2016-report" rel="nofollow" link="external" target="_blank">https://www.g2crowd.com/grid_<wbr>report/documents/gis-winter-<wbr>2016-report</a>
is not really helpful because it is based on some 40 reviews only
and therefore not representative.<br>
I really need to know some proven facts on the number of global QGIS
users and renown companies using QGIS worldwide.<br>
<br>
Thanks for your help in advance,<br>
Markus<br>
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