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Hi Patrick<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/26/2017 02:10 PM, Patrick Dunford
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<p>The issue is, even the latest version of Mint is based on
Xenial - you don't have the means to upgrade the base.</p>
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<p>If I have a later version of Ubuntu or Debian than Xenial I
don't need to use the ubuntugis repository - problem solved.
Qgis do not provide the ubuntugis repository so they obviously
have limited means to ensure the packages there are up to date.
So the best solution is not to use ubuntugis if there are issues
like this.</p>
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<p>Not sure I follow you. From the QGIS download page the
recommended repo for ubuntu *is ubuntugis* and has been for ages,
if I'm not mistaken. That's where all the recent packages are.
There are tons of mails in the archive regarding
ubuntugis-unstable vs ubuntugis-nightly vs ubuntugis. But the
discussion is always around ubuntugis. Please correct me if I'm
wrong. <br>
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<p>If I remove that repo (from Mint or Ubuntu) I go back to QGIS
2.14.x, which is now no longer the LTS version, and will probably
not be supported any longer.</p>
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<p>I don't think it's reasonable to say that Xenial - only 1.5 years
old - is not going to be supported. Many people don't need or want
the bleeding edge software, be we do expect that an OS and
applications will work for several years. All we ask is not to
push out new versions until the whole stack is ready. Since this
problem with GRASS has happened before and always has been fixed
within a few days, it's obvious to me that somehow packages are
pushed out to the repo before the whole system has been checked
thoroughly. So I don't think there's a problem with the underlying
OS, or which repo to use.<br>
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<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Micha<br>
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<p>There is not a guarantee to support every distro out there and
the most stable option is to use a supported distro.<br>
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Am 26.09.2017, 10:40 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Dunford <a
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href="mailto:blackwhitekez@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><blackwhitekez@gmail.com></a>:<br>
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<p>There are some issues supporting xenial, are you able to
test on a more recent version of Ubuntu or Debian, maybe in
a virtual machine. I am going to have a look at my 17.04 vm
with the latest 2.18 to see.</p>
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<div>I wonder why xenial should have support issues, being the
LTS-version.</div>
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<p>I would not recommend Mint - apart from being not an
officially supported distro, the most recent version is
based on what is now relatively old Ubuntu xenial, because
the Mint people are falling behind in development. I
switched to Xubuntu to avoid the Unity controversy.</p>
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<div>Mint also has updates, so I do not see the point switching
to somewhere else. The main problem here is imho that
ubuntugis-unstable and the qgis repositories are very often
out of sync. But a QGIS without all the bells and whistles
from ubuntugis is quite useless for me.</div>
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<div>Cheers</div>
<div>Bernd</div>
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After the recent update to QGIS 2.18.13, GRASS support is
gone. No plugin and no provider. <br>
<br>
My apt sources includes:<br>
deb <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://qgis.org/ubuntugis" moz-do-not-send="true">http://qgis.org/ubuntugis</a>
xenial main<br>
deb-src <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://qgis.org/ubuntugis" moz-do-not-send="true">http://qgis.org/ubuntugis</a>
xenial main<br>
deb <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu</a>
xenial main<br>
deb-src <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu</a>
xenial main<br>
<br>
The packages are installed:<br>
$ dpkg -l | grep plugin-grass<br>
ii qgis-plugin-grass
1:2.18.13+24xenial-ubuntugis amd64
GRASS plugin for QGIS<br>
ii qgis-plugin-grass-common
1:2.18.13+24xenial-ubuntugis all
GRASS plugin for QGIS - architecture-independent data<br>
$ dpkg -l | grep provider-grass<br>
ii qgis-provider-grass
1:2.18.13+24xenial-ubuntugis amd64
GRASS provider for QGIS<br>
<br>
More info:<br>
$ gdalinfo --version<br>
GDAL 2.2.1, released 2017/06/23<br>
$ grass --version<br>
GRASS GIS 7.2.2<br>
<br>
Running 'qgis --debug & ' does not show anything
unusual.<br>
<br>
This is getting tiresome - every few months a routine system
upgrade trashes GRASS support.<br>
<br>
Any suggestions are welcome,<br>
Thanks, Micha<br>
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