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<p class="MsoNormal">To be fair, Esri doesn’t claim to run on a Mac. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Also, we’ve reached out numerous times to QGIS.org and others trying to find out how to fund this, with total silence from everywhere, including this list. So there’s that.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is it really a put up or shut up issue when you are releasing this as a stable release? Really?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">In F,L&T,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Stace Maples <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Geospatial Manager <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Stanford Geospatial Center<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">@mapninja <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">214.641.0920<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Find GeoData:
<a href="https://earthworks.stanford.edu/"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://earthworks.stanford.edu</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Get GeoHelp:
<a href="https://gis.stanford.edu/"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://gis.stanford.edu/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">stanfordgis Listserv:
<a href="https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">"I have a map of the United States... actual size. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I spent last summer folding it." <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">-Steven Wright-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Ian Turton <ijturton@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:30 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"Mr. Stace D Maples" <stacemaples@stanford.edu><br>
<b>Cc: </b>QGIS User List <qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install GRASS properly, ... 'sigh...'<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To be fair you can't run ESRI on a mac either, but this is basically a put up or shut up issue - hire a developer to fix the mac build if you can't do it your self.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 17:27, Mr. Stace D Maples <<a href="mailto:stacemaples@stanford.edu">stacemaples@stanford.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Seriously, we just can’t get a working installer for macOS? It’s just never gonna happen, is that it? I’d love to be able to teach QGIS alongside Esri, but I can tell people to
use something that doesn’t work, out of the box. I’ve been trying for 2 days now to get back to a working copy of QGIS3. It’s my fault, of course. I know better than to upgrade, now. If you aren’t going to test it properly, don’t release it.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Here is what I get when running GRASS tools:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#EFF0F1">2018-10-31T08:54:25 INFO GRASS GIS 7 execution console output</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#EFF0F1"> WARNING: Default locale settings are missing. GRASS running with C locale.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#EFF0F1"> Starting GRASS GIS...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#EFF0F1"> ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#EFF0F1"> Default locale not found, using UTF-8</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#EFF0F1"> Exiting...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#EFF0F1"> WARNING: Default locale settings are missing. GRASS running with C locale.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#EFF0F1"> Starting GRASS GIS...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#EFF0F1"> ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#EFF0F1"> Default locale not found, using UTF-8</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#EFF0F1"> Exiting...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Yes, I read the ReadMe and followed the instructions<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Yes, I’ve added the ENV variables<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Yes, I’ve scrubbed everything and done a clean install (several times)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Yes, I even tried the futile installation of the GRASS “required frameworks” which seem to be the only solutions anyone is able to suggest on StackExchange.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Yes I tried installing GRASS on it’s own and pointing to it from the processing settings, which didn’t work.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Perfectly open to suggestions that DON’T involve any of the above.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">In F,L&T,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Stace Maples </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Geospatial Manager </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Stanford Geospatial Center</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">@mapninja </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">214.641.0920</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Find GeoData:
<a href="https://earthworks.stanford.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://earthworks.stanford.edu</span></a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Get GeoHelp:
<a href="https://gis.stanford.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://gis.stanford.edu/</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">stanfordgis Listserv:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">"I have a map of the United States... actual size. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I spent last summer folding it." </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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