<div dir="ltr"><div>I don't think anger and rage are in any way a way to change things.</div><div> <br></div><div>Especially right after a release sprint with so much effort by so much people. <br></div><div></div><br><div>Coming back to the real topic, MacOS really lacks funds to support packaging. It is way more difficult to package and solve some issues on MacOS. I have seen a lot of people working hard on having it running correctly, and it is NOT easy. <br></div><div>If you have any fund or developpers available, please contribute back. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div>Régis<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Le mer. 31 oct. 2018 à 18:46, Mr. Stace D Maples <<a href="mailto:stacemaples@stanford.edu">stacemaples@stanford.edu</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">To be fair, Esri doesn’t claim to run on a Mac. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Also, we’ve reached out numerous times to QGIS.org and others trying to find out how to fund this, with total silence from everywhere, including this list. So there’s that.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is it really a put up or shut up issue when you are releasing this as a stable release? Really?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">"I have a map of the United States... actual size. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I spent last summer folding it." <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:30 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"Mr. Stace D Maples" <<a href="mailto:stacemaples@stanford.edu" target="_blank">stacemaples@stanford.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>QGIS User List <<a href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install GRASS properly, ... 'sigh...'<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To be fair you can't run ESRI on a mac either, but this is basically a put up or shut up issue - hire a developer to fix the mac build if you can't do it your self.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 17:27, Mr. Stace D Maples <<a href="mailto:stacemaples@stanford.edu" target="_blank">stacemaples@stanford.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Seriously, we just can’t get a working installer for macOS? It’s just never gonna happen, is that it? I’d love to be able to teach QGIS alongside Esri, but I can tell people to
use something that doesn’t work, out of the box. I’ve been trying for 2 days now to get back to a working copy of QGIS3. It’s my fault, of course. I know better than to upgrade, now. If you aren’t going to test it properly, don’t release it.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here is what I get when running GRASS tools:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1">2018-10-31T08:54:25 INFO GRASS GIS 7 execution console output</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> WARNING: Default locale settings are missing. GRASS running with C locale.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> Starting GRASS GIS...</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> Default locale not found, using UTF-8</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> Exiting...</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> WARNING: Default locale settings are missing. GRASS running with C locale.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> Starting GRASS GIS...</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> Default locale not found, using UTF-8</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> Exiting...</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I read the ReadMe and followed the instructions<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I’ve added the ENV variables<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I’ve scrubbed everything and done a clean install (several times)<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I even tried the futile installation of the GRASS “required frameworks” which seem to be the only solutions anyone is able to suggest on StackExchange.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes I tried installing GRASS on it’s own and pointing to it from the processing settings, which didn’t work.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Perfectly open to suggestions that DON’T involve any of the above.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">In F,L&T,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Stace Maples </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Geospatial Manager </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Stanford Geospatial Center</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">@mapninja </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">214.641.0920</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Find GeoData:
<a href="https://earthworks.stanford.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://earthworks.stanford.edu</span></a> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Get GeoHelp:
<a href="https://gis.stanford.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://gis.stanford.edu/</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">"I have a map of the United States... actual size. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I spent last summer folding it." </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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