<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:Montserrat,Tahoma,Meiryo,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">...</span>About 30 people contributed a little more than 3000 € altogether...</div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Montserrat,Tahoma,Meiryo,arial,sans-serif">All of this </span><span style="font-size:13px;outline:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Montserrat,Tahoma,Meiryo,arial,sans-serif;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(34,34,34);padding-bottom:1px;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,185)"><a class="gmail-link_highlighted" href="http://context.reverso.net/traduzione/inglese-italiano/honor" rel="nofollow" style="font-size:13px;outline:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Montserrat,Tahoma,Meiryo,arial,sans-serif">honor</a>!</span><br></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:13px;outline:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Montserrat,Tahoma,Meiryo,arial,sans-serif;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(34,34,34);padding-bottom:1px;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,185)"><br></span></div><div><font face="Montserrat, Tahoma, Meiryo, arial, sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,185)">Thank you!!!</span></font></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 11:25 PM Andreas Neumann <<a href="mailto:a.neumann@carto.net">a.neumann@carto.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Hi Stace,<br>
      <br>
      Sorry to hear about that. Can you remind me, when you tried to
      contact me? I couldn't find any record of it.<br>
      <br>
      Normally I am pretty responsive to such questions: even if we
      normally don't do earmarked donations, we always try to help you
      find a developer with the expertise to help fix issues.<br>
      <br>
      We also have the QGIS grants program, where contributors can
      propose a project that is funded from the general donations and
      sponsorships. Improving installer and user experience on the MacOS
      platform could be one such project.<br>
      <br>
      Note that GRASS and QGIS are separate projects with their own,
      different release schedules. It is normal that sometimes things
      break between this too separate projects - not on purpose, but it
      happens. This is nothing specific on the MacOS platform. It also
      happens on Windows and Linux.<br>
      <br>
      About your general complaint that we tend to neglect the MacOS
      platform: are you aware that we just recently did a fund raising
      initiative targeted specifically to fixing issues on the MacOS
      platform? See
      <a class="m_-5978333159896634147moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://blog.qgis.org/2018/09/12/macosx-specific-bug-fixing-campaign/" target="_blank">http://blog.qgis.org/2018/09/12/macosx-specific-bug-fixing-campaign/</a><br>
      <br>
      About 30 people contributed a little more than 3000 € altogether.
      So people do care about it - but to put in in perspective: one
      single ESRI license probably costs more than what this campaign
      raised. Nevertheless, it was nice to see that >30 people
      chipped in and it shows that the <a href="http://QGIS.ORG" target="_blank">QGIS.ORG</a> project also cares about
      it. There are some nice results from this initiative and we will
      soon blog about the results for the campaign.<br>
      <br>
      Greetings,<br>
      <br>
      Andreas<br>
    </p>
    <div class="m_-5978333159896634147moz-cite-prefix">Am 31.10.18 um 19:11 schrieb Mr. Stace
      D Maples:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I have contacted Andreas Neumann
          directly with no response.
          <u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>In F,L&T,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Stace Maples <u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Geospatial Manager <u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Stanford Geospatial Center<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>@mapninja <u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>214.641.0920<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Find GeoData:
              <a href="https://earthworks.stanford.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://earthworks.stanford.edu</span></a> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Get GeoHelp:
              <a href="https://gis.stanford.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://gis.stanford.edu/</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>stanfordgis Listserv:
              <a href="https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis</span></a> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>"I have a map of the United States...
              actual size. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." <u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I spent last summer folding it." <u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>-Steven Wright-<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Paolo Cavallini
              <a class="m_-5978333159896634147moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cavallini@faunalia.it" target="_blank"><cavallini@faunalia.it></a><br>
              <b>Date: </b>Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 11:10 AM<br>
              <b>To: </b>"Mr. Stace D Maples"
              <a class="m_-5978333159896634147moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stacemaples@stanford.edu" target="_blank"><stacemaples@stanford.edu></a>, Régis Haubourg
              <a class="m_-5978333159896634147moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:regis.haubourg@gmail.com" target="_blank"><regis.haubourg@gmail.com></a><br>
              <b>Cc: </b>QGIS list <a class="m_-5978333159896634147moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"><qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org></a><br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still
              doesn't install GRASS properly, ... 'sigh...'<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Have you tried
          e.g. <a href="https://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/sponsorship/sponsorship.html#qgis-sponsorship-program" target="_blank">
https://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/sponsorship/sponsorship.html#qgis-sponsorship-program</a>
          ?<br>
          Cheers.<u></u><u></u></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Il 31 ottobre 2018 18:59:45 CET, "Mr.
            Stace D Maples" <a class="m_-5978333159896634147moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stacemaples@stanford.edu" target="_blank"><stacemaples@stanford.edu></a> ha scritto:
            <u></u><u></u></p>
          <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
            <p class="MsoNormal">“If you have any fund or developers
              available, please contribute back. ”<u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Again, we’d love to know how to do
              this, and who to contact directly for some actual results.
              We’ve tried. No one seems to be interested beyond
              suggesting that we contribute.
              <u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>In F,L&T,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Stace Maples </span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Geospatial Manager </span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Stanford Geospatial Center</span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>@mapninja </span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples</span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>214.641.0920</span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Find GeoData:
                  <a href="https://earthworks.stanford.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://earthworks.stanford.edu</span></a> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Get GeoHelp:
                  <a href="https://gis.stanford.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://gis.stanford.edu/</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>stanfordgis Listserv:
                  <a href="https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis</span></a> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>"I have a map of the United
                  States... actual size. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." </span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I spent last summer folding it." </span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>-Steven Wright-</span><u></u><u></u></p>
            </div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
            <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Régis Haubourg
                  <a class="m_-5978333159896634147moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:regis.haubourg@gmail.com" target="_blank"><regis.haubourg@gmail.com></a><br>
                  <b>Date: </b>Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:57 AM<br>
                  <b>To: </b>"Mr. Stace D Maples"
                  <a class="m_-5978333159896634147moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stacemaples@stanford.edu" target="_blank"><stacemaples@stanford.edu></a><br>
                  <b>Cc: </b>Ian Turton <a class="m_-5978333159896634147moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ijturton@gmail.com" target="_blank"><ijturton@gmail.com></a>,
                  QGIS list <a class="m_-5978333159896634147moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"><qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org></a><br>
                  <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still
                  doesn't install GRASS properly, ... 'sigh...'</span><u></u><u></u></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">I don't think anger and rage are in
                  any way a way to change things.<u></u><u></u></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Especially right after a release
                  sprint with so much effort by so much people.
                  <u></u><u></u></p>
              </div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Coming back to the real topic,
                  MacOS really lacks funds to support packaging. It is
                  way more difficult to package and solve some issues on
                  MacOS. I have seen a lot of people working hard on
                  having it running correctly, and it is NOT easy.
                  <u></u><u></u></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">If you have any fund or developpers
                  available, please contribute back.
                  <u></u><u></u></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Régis<u></u><u></u></p>
              </div>
            </div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
            <div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Le mer. 31 oct. 2018 à 18:46, Mr.
                  Stace D Maples <<a href="mailto:stacemaples@stanford.edu" target="_blank">stacemaples@stanford.edu</a>>
                  a écrit :<u></u><u></u></p>
              </div>
              <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">To
                      be fair, Esri doesn’t claim to run on a Mac.
                      <u></u><u></u></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Also,
                      we’ve reached out numerous times to QGIS.org and
                      others trying to find out how to fund this, with
                      total silence from everywhere, including this
                      list. So there’s that.<u></u><u></u></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Is
                      it really a put up or shut up issue when you are
                      releasing this as a stable release? Really?<u></u><u></u></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">In
                          F,L&T,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Stace
                          Maples </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Geospatial
                          Manager </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Stanford
                          Geospatial Center</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">@mapninja </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">G+,
                          Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">214.641.0920</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Find
                          GeoData:
                          <a href="https://earthworks.stanford.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://earthworks.stanford.edu</span></a> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Get
                          GeoHelp:
                          <a href="https://gis.stanford.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://gis.stanford.edu/</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">stanfordgis
                          Listserv:
                          <a href="https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis" target="_blank">
                            <span style="color:#0563c1">https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis</span></a> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">"I
                          have a map of the United States... actual
                          size. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">It
                          says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I
                          spent last summer folding it." </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">-Steven
                          Wright-</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                    <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
                          </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Ian
                          Turton <<a href="mailto:ijturton@gmail.com" target="_blank">ijturton@gmail.com</a>><br>
                          <b>Date: </b>Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at
                          10:30 AM<br>
                          <b>To: </b>"Mr. Stace D Maples" <<a href="mailto:stacemaples@stanford.edu" target="_blank">stacemaples@stanford.edu</a>><br>
                          <b>Cc: </b>QGIS User List <<a href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
                          <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4
                          macOS still doesn't install GRASS properly,
                          ... 'sigh...'</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">To
                        be fair you can't run ESRI on a mac either, but
                        this is basically a put up or shut up issue -
                        hire a developer to fix the mac build if you
                        can't do it your self.
                        <u></u><u></u></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Ian<u></u><u></u></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">On
                          Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 17:27, Mr. Stace D Maples
                          <<a href="mailto:stacemaples@stanford.edu" target="_blank">stacemaples@stanford.edu</a>>
                          wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">Seriously,
                              we just can’t get a working installer for
                              macOS? It’s just never gonna happen, is
                              that it? I’d love to be able to teach QGIS
                              alongside Esri, but I can tell people to
                              use something that doesn’t work, out of
                              the box. I’ve been trying for 2 days now
                              to get back to a working copy of QGIS3.
                              It’s my fault, of course. I know better
                              than to upgrade, now.  If you aren’t going
                              to test it properly, don’t release it.
                              <u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Here
                              is what I get when running GRASS tools:<u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1">2018-10-31T08:54:25    
                                INFO    GRASS GIS 7 execution console
                                output</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1">        
                                WARNING: Default locale settings are
                                missing. GRASS running with C locale.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1">        
                                Starting GRASS GIS...</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1">        
                                ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1">        
                                Default locale not found, using UTF-8</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1">        
                                Exiting...</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1">        
                                WARNING: Default locale settings are
                                missing. GRASS running with C locale.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1">        
                                Starting GRASS GIS...</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1">        
                                ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1">        
                                Default locale not found, using UTF-8</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1">        
                                Exiting...</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Yes,
                              I read the ReadMe and followed the
                              instructions<u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Yes,
                              I’ve added the ENV variables<u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Yes,
                              I’ve scrubbed everything and done a clean
                              install (several times)<u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Yes,
                              I even tried the futile installation of
                              the GRASS “required frameworks” which seem
                              to be the only solutions anyone is able to
                              suggest on StackExchange.
                              <u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Yes
                              I tried installing GRASS on it’s own and
                              pointing to it from the processing
                              settings, which didn’t work.
                              <u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Perfectly
                              open to suggestions that DON’T involve any
                              of the above.<u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>In F,L&T,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Stace Maples </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Geospatial Manager </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Stanford Geospatial
                                Center</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>@mapninja </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>G+, Skype, Hangout:
                                stacey.maples</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>214.641.0920</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Find GeoData:
                                <a href="https://earthworks.stanford.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://earthworks.stanford.edu</span></a> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Get GeoHelp:
                                <a href="https://gis.stanford.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://gis.stanford.edu/</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>stanfordgis Listserv:
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>"I have a map of the
                                United States... actual size. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>It says, "Scale: 1
                                mile = 1 mile." </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I spent last summer
                                folding it." </span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>-Steven Wright-</span><u></u><u></u></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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