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    <p>Hi Andreas, Barend,</p>
    <p>We definitely could have been clearer in the question. But I
      think the "real" organisation size matters as well, the IT
      infrastructure overhead is relative to the organisation size and
      not the number of users (which also would have been interesting).</p>
    <p>Note to self: be hyper-precise in future survey questions<br>
    </p>
    <p>Matthias<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/16/20 10:01 AM, Andreas Neumann
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      <p>Hi Barend,</p>
      <p>Right - that question should have been more clearly stated. I
        agree and apologize for not noticing it when we discussed it.</p>
      <p>Thanks for filling in the survey!<br>
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      <p>Andreas<br>
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              lang="EN-US">Just a side-note: I filled in the survey and
              said I work in an organization of >100 employees. That
              is because my university has almost 800 staff. But only a
              max of 50 or so use QGIS regularly. On the other hand we
              have 3200 students of which also a proportion uses it...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
              lang="EN-US">In other words, don't make assumptions on
              actual QGIS users based on that survey question!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                lang="EN-US">Barend Köbben<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
                lang="EN-US">Senior Lecturer – ITC- University Twente <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  lang="EN-US">PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (The
                  Netherlands)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  1-065<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
                  lang="EN-US">+31-(0)53 4874 253</span><span
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On 16/04/2020, 08:21, "Qgis-user on
                behalf of Andreas Neumann" <<a
                  href="mailto:qgis-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">qgis-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>
                on behalf of <a href="mailto:a.neumann@carto.net"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">a.neumann@carto.net</a>>
                wrote:<span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p>Hi Michael,<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p>Yes, I interpret it is the nr of employees using (Q)GIS on
            a regular basis within an organization. And it is based on
            self-declaration and there is no control about the numbers
            whatsoever.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p>We have quite a nr of municipalities that support us on the
            "small" level as sustaining member.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p>All is based on a voluntary contribution anyway and you are
            not required to be a member in order to use QGIS.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p>Greetings,<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p>Andreas<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Am 16.04.20 um 02:45 schrieb Michael
              Dufty:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Sustaining membership works  out a bit
              steep for us if you follow the guideline – about 10 times
              what we currently pay for commercial software (Manifold).<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Is it reasonable to interpret number of
              employees as GIS users rather than total employees?<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">I see my local council is on there as
              small, and I’m sure they have more than 10 employees.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Obviously no limits apply if we go with
              donations without membership.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                    style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Michael
                    Dufty</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      style="mso-fareast-language:EN-AU" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                    style="mso-fareast-language:EN-AU" lang="EN-US">
                    Anita Graser <a href="mailto:anitagraser@gmx.at"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><anitagraser@gmx.at></a>
                    <br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 15 April 2020 1:47 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Iain@jcis.net.au"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">Iain@jcis.net.au</a>; <a
                      href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"> qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS in the
                    commercial world</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p>Dear Iain,<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p>Yes, QGIS has an entity: QGIS.ORG is the worldwide
              association of QGIS users and developers. QGIS.ORG is
              constituted as a Swiss ‘association’ (<a
                href="https://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/charter.html"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/charter.html</a>)
              but it is not a registered charity.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p>To help support QGIS, organizations are invited to become
              sustaining members of QGIS.ORG. The details of our
              sustaining membership program are described in: <a
href="https://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/sustaining_members/sustaining_members.html"
                moz-do-not-send="true">
https://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/sustaining_members/sustaining_members.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p>You can also see who's already supporting QGIS: <a
                href="https://qgis.org/en/site/about/sustaining_members.html"
                moz-do-not-send="true">
                https://qgis.org/en/site/about/sustaining_members.html</a>
              <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p>Anita<o:p></o:p></p>
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