<html><head></head><body><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Alternatively, Micromamba can be used. Micromamba is really fast:</div><div><a href="https://waylonwalker.com/install-micromamba/">https://waylonwalker.com/install-micromamba/</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>micromamba search qgis -y -c conda-forge</div><div>micromamba create -n aqgis qgis pcraster -y -c conda-forge</div><div><br></div><div>micromamba run -n aqgis qgis</div><div><br></div><div>micromamba activate aqgis</div><div>micromamba list</div><div>qgis</div><div><br></div><div>micromamba update</div><div>micromamba update qgis</div><div>qgis</div><div><br></div><div>micromamba deactivate</div><div><br></div><div>#Caution, this will delete the envirement aqqgis:</div><div>micromamba env remove --name aqgis</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Greetings</div><div>Christian</div><div><br></div><div>Am Montag, dem 26.02.2024 um 09:38 -0500 schrieb Randal Hale via QGIS-User:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>So at this point your environment should be active - type qgis in the <br></div><div>terminal and it should start.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I ignore the ICD warning. I think at some point I actually installed <br></div><div>something to make it go away but it doesn't stop qgis from working.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Randy<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On 2/26/24 09:32, Bernd Vogelgesang via QGIS-User wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Soooo,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I thought to share my steps so far, so I will not have to ask again in <br></div><div>some weeks ;)<br></div><div><br></div><div>terminal:<br></div><div>$ curl -L -O <br></div><div>"<a href="https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge/releases/latest/download/Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname">https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge/releases/latest/download/Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname</a> <br></div><div>-m).sh"<br></div><div>bash Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname -m).sh<br></div><div><br></div><div>was asked to deactivate the base environment and confirmed, but <br></div><div>somehow this did not happen, so:<br></div><div><br></div><div>$ conda config --set auto_activate_base false<br></div><div><br></div><div>$ conda create --name qgis_3.34<br></div><div><br></div><div>then I got warned that there is a newer version of conda (strange, why <br></div><div>isn't the new version installed right away?).<br></div><div>So done as told:<br></div><div><br></div><div>$ conda update -n base -c conda-forge conda<br></div><div><br></div><div>$ conda activate qgis_3.34<br></div><div><br></div><div>conda install qgis=3.34<br></div><div><br></div><div>stuff is installed, but again the warning to update<br></div><div><br></div><div>finally:<br></div><div>WARNING: No ICDs were found. Either,<br></div><div>- Install a conda package providing a OpenCL implementation (pocl, <br></div><div>oclgrind, intel-compute-runtime, beignet) or<br></div><div>- Make your system-wide implementation visible by installing <br></div><div>ocl-icd-system conda package.<br></div><div><br></div><div>That stuff is exactly what I was messing around with for the past week <br></div><div>to get the graphics card support in QGIS. Gnrrr...!<br></div><div><br></div><div>So, what to do now? I feel like panicking ... ;)<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Am 26.02.24 um 14:21 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup):<br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Don't feel dumb, it is all written and spread out in super <br></div><div>complicated ways but once running, it's alright-ish.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Normal Miniforge3 should be fine unless you know you want pypy.<br></div><div>Unless you know differently, try the "Miniforge3-Linux-x86_64" version.<br></div><div>Mamba is something hidden in the background, for you it will pretend <br></div><div>to be Conda. Conda is the original project, mamba is a faster, <br></div><div>compatible alternative.<br></div><div>Miniforge is something that comes with mamba "as conda" and <br></div><div>automatically uses the big "conda-forge" repository where lots of <br></div><div>software and libraries are available, packaged by the community.<br></div><div><br></div><div>You can use the command lines from <br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge?tab=readme-ov-file#install">https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge?tab=readme-ov-file#install</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>After installation I recommend: $ conda config --set <br></div><div>auto_activate_base false<br></div><div>Otherwise every terminal/shell session will run using a conda <br></div><div>environment instead of your standard system environment.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Once installed, you can use the "create" line from other previous <br></div><div>mail to install a QGIS environment. Then "conda activate qgis_3.34" <br></div><div>to activate it in a terminal session, "qgis" in that same terminal to <br></div><div>launch that QGIS and just close the terminal or enter "conda <br></div><div>deactivate" to deactivate it again.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers, Hannes<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On 26.02.24 13:41, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi Hannes,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for you answer. I played around before with those snakes and <br></div><div>that's what maybe brought me into trouble.<br></div><div><br></div><div>And again, this zoo of species starts to confuse me, starting with <br></div><div>the installer:<br></div><div>Miniforge3 or Miniforge-pypy3 ?<br></div><div>And when does the mamba come into play instead of the conda?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Sorry for me playing the dumb, but I almost spent a week trying to <br></div><div>get things back to normal here at my desk.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div>Bernd<br></div><div><br></div><div>Am 26.02.24 um 12:35 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup):<br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi Bernd,<br></div><div><br></div><div>a pragmatic solution which I have grown to like is using conda <br></div><div>environments. Using mamba instead of the default conda via <br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge">https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge</a> to reduce annoyances and <br></div><div>then it is for example a simple "conda --create qgis_3.34 <br></div><div>qgis=3.34" to get a nicely isolated QGIS 3.34 with pdal etc.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Just make sure to deactivate the base environment in your <br></div><div>terminal/shell, otherwise you are trading one potential mess for <br></div><div>another ;)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers, Hannes<br></div><div><br></div><div>On 26.02.24 12:10, Bernd Vogelgesang via QGIS-User wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi,<br></div><div>using QGIS on the "normal" ubuntu-based Linux Mint for years, I <br></div><div>again managed to render my system unusable by playing around too <br></div><div>much, resulting in ever crashing QGIS so I even had to reactivate <br></div><div>a Windows Virtual Box to be able to work!!<br></div><div><br></div><div>After a hell of problems with NVIDIA graphics drivers (opencl <br></div><div>support in QGIS), I finally managed to get everything to work with <br></div><div>Linux Mint Debian edition ... but now had to learn that Debian <br></div><div>does not provide PDAL for point cloud stuff in the repositories.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Long story short: Can anyone give me recommendations how to get <br></div><div>PDAL working with QGIS that do NOT include building PDAL and QGIS <br></div><div>by myself?<br></div><div>Though I USE Linux for over 15 years,I would prefer avoiding that.<br></div><div>Fumbling around with too less insight on what I am actually doing <br></div><div>just led me here...<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div>Bernd<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>QGIS-User mailing list<br></div><div><a href="mailto:QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org">QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org</a><br></div><div>List info: <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user</a><br></div><div>Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user</a><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></blockquote></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>QGIS-User mailing list<br></div><div><a href="mailto:QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org">QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org</a><br></div><div>List info: <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user</a><br></div><div>Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user</a><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span></span></div></body></html>