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Hi Tony,<br>
<br>
we know about mailman3 rewrite. from the tests of SAC and other
projects, it was not conclusive.<br>
<br>
About keeping both system, this is the best way to fragment a bit
more our community, which already is dispersed through too many
channels. This is the problem we want to fix here. This is a hard
requirement in this move, ie stay DRY.<br>
<br>
Gnome, Mozilla and Ubuntu are all fighting against the same issue.
We try to clarify which should be the official channels, and still
want to offer communication means that are really used. From my
perspective, I use Discourse mainly by mail, and have the
additionnal possibility of using the web UI to write markdown , add
images and color syntaxed code. I woud not see the benefit of having
to "also" keep monitoring other mailing lists.<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
On 04/04/2024 01:07, Tony Bazeley via QGIS-User wrote:<br>
<span style="white-space: pre-wrap; display: block; width: 98vw;">> I'm not against new communication channels, but imagine the maximum
> benefit would be obtained by adding a discourse channel while keeping
> the mailing list channel, and perhaps reviewing use after a period of
> time.
>
> And just BTW, Mailman has just completed an upgrade to a major new
> version so I'd be interested to learn the basis of claims for "end of
> life"
>
> On Thursday 4 April 2024 8:53:47 AM ACDT Greg Troxel via QGIS-User
> wrote:
>> What I meant mostly is two things:
>>
>> People like me tend not to be happy about things turning into
>> forums and are likely to participate less. As an example,
>> openstreetmap moved from mailinglists to forums and I have not, so
>> I interract far far less and spend more time on other things. I am
>> probably somewhat unusual (started doing email in the 70s), and
>> here probably only strk thinks I"m normal :-)
>>
>> My perception, perhaps off base, is that discourse facilitates
>> people showing up, posting a question, and getting replies to the
>> question, without also getting delivered to them everything else
>> on the "mailing list". Thus I expect a lot more help desk type
>> interactions, where new people ask a question and don't really
>> engage, rather than joining the community. Many projects have
>> communities of long-term participants who get to know each other.
>> Partly from on-list, but partly from off-list converstations which
>> are enabled by getting emails with the other person's email
>> address. I don't see this happening in a discourse world. I'm not
>> arguing there are no mechanisms and that people could not make it
>> happen. I am saying that I expect it to happen much less in
>> practice.
>>
>> I don't have any good ideas about the first pointl.
>>
>> The second point could be addressed by allowing web signup, but
>> allowing posting only if one has email delivery of all messages,
>> and having the From: address be the person, and not breaking DKIM
>> signatures. In short, having the email interface be a first-class
>> non-broken mailinglist, while also having a forum view.
>>
>> (I've dropped psc because it doesn't allow non-members to send.)
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