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<p>Hi Régis and PSC,</p>
<p>Great news and exciting evolution for QGIS community! Thanks for
the underlying work along with the OSGeo tech team.</p>
<p>On my side, I think it's a good evolution to make the project
more reachable for classic end-users and an honest trade-off for
long-live dev/tech users since Discourse can behave as a a mailing
list too.</p>
<p>I hope that will help to reduce QGIS communication channels and
look forward to see every related event and discussions live on
Discourse.</p>
<p>Regards,<br>
Julien<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/04/2024 21:14, Régis Haubourg via
QGIS-User wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hi Greg,
<div dir="auto">Of course you are free to react !</div>
<div dir="auto">I'm interested in understanding why you feel
this would reduce engagement. </div>
<div dir="auto">I've been testing Discourse a lot in the past
years. From french spaces around open data and numeric
commons, to a first test with QGIS french user lists. </div>
<div dir="auto">What I have observed is :</div>
<div dir="auto">- new users jump in more easily than with our
obscure mailing list habits.</div>
<div dir="auto">- I just don't see any usage difference once I
changed my settings from the default digest setting to "one
mail per interaction"</div>
<div dir="auto">- it is a lot easier to subscribe to a category
than to subscribe in mailman to a new mailing list. </div>
<div dir="auto">- finding topics via search engine is so much
more normal. Remember we needed Nabble to offer this and it
was not an easy experience. And Nabble died. </div>
<div dir="auto">- as a list administror, mailman backoffice
interface does not make it easy. It has been designed in the
early stages of the web. This is so hard to understand, read
and maintain. And don't try on a phone. </div>
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<div dir="auto">On the downsides, I just had to explore
notification settings and understand how categories work a bit
more than I would have expected. But a lot less time than the
numerous hours struggling with mailman admin interfaces.</div>
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<div dir="auto">So if you have tangible ideas or facts we are
really interested. Discourse is open source and really full
of features, settings or plugins to tune it to our needs. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Cheers</div>
<div dir="auto">Régis </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mer. 3 avr. 2024, 17:34,
Greg Troxel via QGIS-User <<a
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writes:<br>
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> With this move, we hope that we can counter the current
fragmentation<br>
> and streamline our discussions. Please fell free to
react.<br>
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I'm unhappy about this, as I suspect are others who have been
in the<br>
Free Software world a long time. I expect that this will lead
to<br>
reduced engagement by the longer-term-FS people. Part of this
is that<br>
tools that encourage post-and-only-see-answers lead to a help
desk<br>
feeling that than a community.<br>
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I don't expect to be listened to in any serious way, but you
said "feel<br>
free to react" :-)<br>
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