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<p><i>I guessed that it happened when I use a shapefile and deleted some points during in editing mode (using backspace). I think, it deletes the geometry only, but not the (line in attribute table).<o:p></o:p></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">This makes sense, thanks.
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 03 April 2025 15:23<br>
<b>To:</b> Nora Badenhorst <norabadenhorst@nova.org.za><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Tobias Schula <geospatial@schula.org>; qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Qgis-user] FW: "Phantom" point in created layer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Hi Nora and all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I struggled sometimes with a similar problem but didn't know that the phantom points was plotted at lat/long (0.0).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I knew that they didn't have valid geometry.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I guessed that it happened when I use a shapefile and deleted some points during in editing mode (using backspace). I think, it deletes the geometry only, but not the (line in attribute table).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Can you try this ?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Apr 3, 2025, 09:00 Nora Badenhorst via QGIS-User <<a href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org">qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Tobias,<br>
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Hope you are well? <br>
Thanks for the feedback.<br>
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I have created a NEW shapefile for each of my areas. <br>
Attached find one of these layers. It was created (geometry type: points) and saved. I then "edited" the layer and adding points using "add pint feature"<br>
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When realising that there were "phantom" points, I selected the visible points and saved it as a new layer.<br>
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I do not use GeoPackage as as layers but will definitely try it in future.<br>
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Thanks again - have a great day.<br>
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Nôra Badenhorst<br>
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From: QGIS-User <<a href="mailto:qgis-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">qgis-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>> On Behalf Of Tobias Schula via QGIS-User<br>
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To: <a href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] FW: "Phantom" point in created layer<br>
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> I created a shapefile layer<br>
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This seems to be the culprit. Did you create the shapefile specifically and newly in QGIS, or did you reuse some old shapefile where you just deleted features? Shape is a brittle format and can easily get corrupted, especially if different apps and programs
got their hands on the same file.<br>
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QGIS always had bugs with shapefiles, e.g. this one:<br>
> <a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/19349" target="_blank">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/19349</a><br>
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I don't work with shapefiles at all anymore, I just treat them as data- interchange format. If you receive a shapefile, import it into geopackage, spatialite or postgis, when your done editing, export it again as a new shapefile. Saved me a lot of headaches.<br>
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Export your points in a temporary scratch layer that you then save as a new shapefile under a new name, so QGIS won't use the old sidecars anymore. Try editing the "new" shapefile and see if the error persists.<br>
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Try to create a completely new shapefile with the same columns and see if the error persists, try to save your shapefile into a different format and continue editing the new format. I highly suspect the shapefile is broken and thus creates phantom/mystery geometries.<br>
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Do you have any other layers joined or connected to the offending layer? It could be that the creation of a point triggers further action. What are your settings in Layer > Layer Properties. , tabs "Actions" and "Attributes Form"?
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Do you have an expression saved somewhere as an automatic input field? <br>
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I had similar problems with mystery points added in QField, no more problems since only using geopackage. I also tried to recreate your problem, but my newly created shapefile layer only shows the points I added. Can you share your shape with us, or does it
have confidential data? <br>
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Best Regards<br>
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Tobias A Schula<br>
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