[SAC] Mailing List Change Request

[shawn barnes]

List names that have now been renamed are:

 Webcommittee_dev  => webcom
 Mapguide_dev      => mapguide-internals
 Mapguide_announce => mapguide-announce
 Mapguide_users    => mapguide-users
 Mapguide_commits  => mapguide-commits
 Fdo-dev           => fdo-internals
 Fdo_announce      => fdo-announce
 Fdo_commits       => fdo-commits
 Fdo_users         => fdo-users

i've aliased oldlist name to newlist name to catch posts sent to the oldname

i removed the oldlist but, kept archives just in case.

shawn

shawn barnes wrote:
> lists that will be renamed today:
> 
> Webcommittee_dev  => webcom
> Mapguide-dev      => mapguide-internals
> Mapguide_announce => mapguide-announce
> Mapguide_users    => mapguide-users
> Mapguide_commits  => mapguide-commits
> Fdo-dev           => fdo-internals
> Fdo_announce      => fdo-announce
> Fdo_commits       => fdo-commits
> 
> shawn
> 
> Mateusz Loskot wrote:
>> Robert,
>>
>> Thank you for the explanation. Certainly, it makes
>> sense to me very well.
>> Mateusz
>>
>> Robert Bray wrote:
>>> Mateusz,
>>>
>>> What we have found on the mapguide project is that all users are
>>> developers, some people like yourself write code on the project and
>>> others (the majority) are application developers that use our APIs.
>>> Often the second category posts app development questions to
>>> mapguide-dev when in reality they should have been posted to
>>> mapguide-users. I think as the FDO lists grow we'll experience the same
>>> problems, which is why I have backed this change. Both the PHP and MySQL
>>> projects use -internals to avoid that type of confusion.
>>>
>>> The reality is I don't like it either, but I think it will be beneficial
>>> to the project in the long run.
>>> And you my friend are never interfering, just asking good questions.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> Mateusz Loskot wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for interfering, but what about:
>>>>
>>>> fdo-dev - for FDO dev team discussions
>>>> fdo-users - for FDO users, all who use FDO in their applications
>>>>
>>>> Mateusz
>>>>
>>>> Robert Bray wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>> Shawn,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you see this before you make the MapGuide and FDO list changes,
>>>>> please alter the plan as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mapguide-dev => mapguide-internals
>>>>> Fdo-dev => fdo-internals
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Jason that this will hopefully prevent application
>>>>> developers from posting questions on the development list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason Birch wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>> I know that this might be late, but can I suggest that we use  "mapguide-internals" rather than "mapguide-dev" ???
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> This avoids the inherent confusion that results from many of our end users being developers.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> It appears that MySQL and PHP are both using this convention, likely for the same reason.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: sac-bounces at lists.osgeo.org on behalf of shawn barnes
>>>>>> Sent: Thu 2007-01-11 11:29 AM
>>>>>> To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SAC] Mailing List Change Request
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason, Bob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www_admin was a list for cn mail server to send mail to.  It's now deleted
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've also deleted the following lists:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Webcommittee_announce
>>>>>> Webcommittee_commits
>>>>>> Webcommittee_issues
>>>>>> Www_news-item
>>>>>> Www_cvs
>>>>>> Mg-sandbox_commits
>>>>>> Mg-sandbox_issues
>>>>>> Fdoarcsde_commits
>>>>>> Fdocore_commits
>>>>>> Fdogdal_commits
>>>>>> Fdoogr_commits
>>>>>> Fdooracle_commits
>>>>>> Fdordbms_commits
>>>>>> Fdosdf_commits
>>>>>> Fdoshp_commits
>>>>>> Fdowfs_commits
>>>>>> Fdowms_commits
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lists removed with archives left intact:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mapguide_issues
>>>>>> Mapguide_psc
>>>>>> Fdo_issues
>>>>>> Fdo_psc
>>>>>> Mail_mse-users
>>>>>>
>>>>>> archives are accessible at lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tomorrow i will move/rename the following lists
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Webcommittee_dev  => webcom
>>>>>> Mapguide_announce => mapguide-announce
>>>>>> Mapguide_dev      => mapguide-dev
>>>>>> Mapguide_users    => mapguide-users
>>>>>> Mapguide_commits  => mapguide-commits
>>>>>> Fdo_announce      => fdo-announce
>>>>>> Fdo_commits       => fdo-commits
>>>>>> Fdo_dev           => fdo-dev
>>>>>> Fdo_users         => fdo-users
>>>>>>
>>>>>> shawn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason Birch wrote:
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>> Shawn,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If possible, could you please do the following at the same time?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Delete:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Webcommittee_announce@
>>>>>>> Webcommittee_commits@
>>>>>>> Webcommittee_issues@
>>>>>>> Www_news-item@
>>>>>>> Www_cvs@
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rename:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Webcommittee_dev@    to    webcom@
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and if you have time... investigate:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Www_admin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (I have no idea what this is)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: sac-bounces at lists.osgeo.org on behalf of shawn barnes
>>>>>>> Sent: Thu 2007-01-11 6:12 AM
>>>>>>> To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SAC] Mailing List Change Request
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll can do the deleting and deactivating today and tomorrow morning
>>>>>>> i'll do the renaming.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> shawn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert Bray wrote:
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>> Shawn,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to request some changes to the MapGuide and FDO project mailing
>>>>>>>> lists. Specifically I would like to rename some of mailing lists, deactivate
>>>>>>>> some lists, and remove some lists altogether.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *The lists to be renamed are:*
>>>>>>>> Mapguide_announce => mapguide-announce
>>>>>>>> Mapguide_dev => mapguide-dev
>>>>>>>> Mapguide_users => mapguide-users
>>>>>>>> Mapguide_commits => mapguide-commits (should be hooked to broadcast SVN commits)
>>>>>>>> Fdo_announce => fdo-announce
>>>>>>>> Fdo_commits  => fdo-commits (should be hooked to broadcast all FDO project SVN
>>>>>>>> commits)
>>>>>>>> Fdo_dev => fdo-dev
>>>>>>>> Fdo_users => fdo-users
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *The lists to be deactivated (but I would like access to the archives if possible):*
>>>>>>>> Mapguide_issues
>>>>>>>> Mapguide_psc
>>>>>>>> Fdo_issues
>>>>>>>> Fdo_psc
>>>>>>>> Mail_mse-users
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Lists to be deleted:*
>>>>>>>> Mg-sandbox_commits
>>>>>>>> Mg-sandbox_issues
>>>>>>>> Fdoarcsde_commits
>>>>>>>> Fdocore_commits
>>>>>>>> Fdogdal_commits
>>>>>>>> Fdoogr_commits
>>>>>>>> Fdooracle_commits
>>>>>>>> Fdordbms_commits
>>>>>>>> Fdosdf_commits
>>>>>>>> Fdoshp_commits
>>>>>>>> Fdowfs_commits
>>>>>>>> Fdowms_commits
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please let me know if this will be possible and when the changes could be made.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>   
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