[SAC] /backup/ directory on Backup-VM

Frank Warmerdam warmerdam at pobox.com
Fri Aug 27 19:18:48 EDT 2010


Martin Spott wrote:
> Hi Frank,
> 
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:59:27AM -0400, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
>> Martin Spott wrote:
> 
>>  > ....  that we're probably just having a different understanding with
>>> respect to the meaning of a "backup" machine/server.
>>> I'm familiar with backup servers in commercial environments - which
>>> typically are dedicated machines to serve just this single purpose. The
>>> "OSGeo Backup VM" instead seems more to end up as a dump site for
>>> (partially antiquated) archives - with little understanding of what
>>> modern backup offers ;-)
> 
>> I'm not sure what to make of the above.  I'll assume it does not imply
>> an action item for me.
> 
> No, at least not immediately. But if you/we are about making a
> consistent directory layout among the different servers, then we should
> probably take maybe not all but at least most of the reasonable options
> into account.
> 
> 1.) Why are people running 'rsync' synchronization when a real backup
>     system is available !?

Martin,

Rsync is working just fine as a mirroring mechanism for the download
site for which I already had to run the rsync server on anyways.  I don't
see an issue.

> 2.) I'm proposing a directory nomenclature where mostly static data as
>     well as database dumps are living below just one or two directories
>     (let's say "/var/www/" and "/osgeo/") and these are going to be
>     included into the regular, daily backup procedure. Volatile stuff
>     like live databases, SVN, LDAP and the like, all the stuff which is
>     better saved via a dump, are supposed to live in their usual
>     places.

I don't have any strong position on this.  It seems plausible.

> 3.) The backup system, at least to my understanding, is much different
>     from the more or less visible "OSGeo services" - so why is its
>     storage directory forced into the same directory nomenclature !?

Things like the /osgeo directory on the servers are not visible to end
users so I don't see the distinction you are making.  I am just trying to
put the bulk of OSGeo stuff into /osgeo on the osgeo servers for easy
finding.  If you object to this then handle the backula stuff as you wish
and I'll handle the aspects of the backup server I manage as I wish.

Best regards,
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