I've added one more line item to the SysAdmin budget -- contract to upgrade MailMan and any unforeseen issues. I figure we should ask for it now so we don't have to request for it when it's too late. We will probably be turned down anyway. I ask everyone to vote again and I will send to board for approval after. https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Budget#2025 +1 from me