Mantra, mon joli mantra, dis moi qui est la plus belle ?

Regina Obe lr at pcorp.us
Fri Sep 27 21:00:18 PDT 2024


> > Yes being able to post trac tickets
> That's mostly PostGIS, right? I checked a couple of projects from https://trac.osgeo.org/, FDO is probably abandoned (and is causing some trouble with the database when the bots are hitting it), MapGuide's most recent tickets are from 18 months ago, GRASS uses GitHub anyway.

Yes mostly PostGIS and OSGeo trac.  I did forget though that GRASS uses OSGeo LDAP for https://grasswiki.osgeo.org  .

>> Adding videos to video.osgeo.org
>> Being able to start a meeting on meet.osgeo.org
> Somehow I doubt that people will want to register just to upload something to Nextcloud or PeerTube. It's usually the other way around, it's those who've been with OSGeo for years that post there.

I agree on that, it would be mostly long standing users  and I definitely wouldn't care to waste space on users we don't fully trust.

> Regarding CAPTCHA's, Cloudflare's Turnstile works quite well, and requires no-interaction. I think reCAPTCHA also has a similar mode these days, but I'm not sure.
> Of course, a lot of people have something against Cloudflare, but 1. they're not into the ad and tracking business, 2. I've seen very wild (surprising) accusations, but those were never substantiated.

Yah that's the one you suggested Cloudflare's Turnstile.  I don't know enough about it to have pressing concerns with it and most of cloudflare accusations do seem like FUD to me.
The fact is we are already using cloudflare for osgeo.org DNS so I'm not sure it adds any more issue than what ever concerns we already have.


> I don't think whitelisting specific TLDs will help that much. About half of the requests come from students and people who teach at universities. 
> And a lot of requests seem misguided, with people who think they need an account for random QGIS plugins.

This is my main concern.  I don't want our LDAP polluted with people that signup and never use their account for anything or worst yet use it to clutter our wiki or our website with junk, though I guess to strk's point, we could just setup an expiration rule so accounts expire if they have not be used for a while.  So cloudflare turnstile is not going to do that for us.
If they don't need any of our services or want to publish their profile "IN GOOD FAITH" on our website then I don't want them to have an account.  By GOOD FAITH I mean not just an advertisement.

I really would like them to join mailing lists lists.osgeo.org and discourse.osgeo.org and interact with those to prove they are good citizens before we waste our time with them.
I know it sounds very elitists of me, but I'm really discouraged by the lack of long standing people around here.  I don't see many new faces sticking around (aside from yours Laurentiu which is kinda new) that puts in a good amount of effort to help out in a long long while.  It's always the same old faces. Yes we have more people using our software and providing patches, but I was much happier 10 years ago when people felt more REAL.
Now all these people feel like strangers -- random patch here or there if that much and never to be seen again.

If there are those 0.05% of people out there that were the kind of personalities we had years ago, I'd gladly trade 95% of new traffic for them.


> I'm not even sure it's a good thing to have students publish their homework, as, even assuming their plugins are great, they're unlikely to be maintained in the future.

That is a decision I think QGIS plugin admins should make. If they require more vetting or would like us to reject students, then they should say so.



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