Mantra, mon joli mantra, dis moi qui est la plus belle ?

[Markus Neteler]

Yeah, I think the same.

Btw, I have made some plots out of mbox files but they are too depressing...

Markus

Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com> schrieb am Mo., 30. Sep. 2024,
00:31:

> This thread is exactly what we are missing from discuss these days.
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> On 9/29/24 02:02, Regina Obe wrote:
> > To Even’s point, I don’t think we should have “Create an LDAP account”
> front and center. Mailing Lists and Discourse should be front and center.
> >
> >
> >
> > The reality is that for most OSGeo services e.g. downloading software or
> asking a question people don’t need an LDAP account, and they shouldn’t be
> asking for one if they are merely passing by.
> >
> > And while it’s nice that all these University students are creating QGIS
> plugins, to Laurențiu point, I’m not sure they should be encourage to add
> it to the QGIS registry as most likely those plugins will be abandoned.
> >
> >
> >
> > As to discourse, the reason I put this up is my feeling is with the
> success of open source, people’s patience is stretched more thinly across
> many more projects.  So we do suffer for being more mature projects cause
> there are much fewer low hanging fruit to pick on.
> >
> > Chances are if you are a passer by you only care about YOUR problem.
> Mailing lists seem to require way too much engagement for a passing crowd.
> >
> > With discourse, people can simply watch a single topic or many topics
> they are interested in and YES we do allow them to log in with their github
> accounts (which I know many people disagree with), but I intentionally
> enabled cause I see this as a gate of inspection that should be very
> frictionless for the large github crowd who whine about having to create
> yet another account.  I also personally dislike mailing lists cause I get
> bombarded with client requests etc on my mail so my mail is mostly focused
> on client requests and I just want my interaction with osgeo to be
> completely separate.  Something I can login look at when I have some
> breathing time or show as an alert on my phone in my discourse app and that
> I can easily dismiss new stuff quickly by scanning or unwatch if a
> discussion is of little interest to me.
> >
> >
> >
> > But anyway I have always preferred latching on to people once they join
> mailing lists, discourse, or they submit a couple of patches or bug
> tickets.  And hell if they went thru that whole grueling getting a mantra
> to submit a ticket, they are no ordinary user 😊. All those I can sense
> their strengths, their interests, and if they are worth my extra time to
> target or simply just passing by not ready for any kind of commitment.
> >
> >
> >
> > SIDE NOTE:  I have been surprised the number of people submitting QGIS
> questions in the discourse General channel.  Users sometimes submit
> Geoserver questions in General as well, which is nice I can just move to
> Geoserver/users category and tell them to post there in future.  I don’t
> know if maybe people find the QGIS mailing lists too much trouble to post
> to  or there is something especially attractive about the Discourse /
> General category. Like “I have no clue where to go, let me post here”,
> which is fine I since discourse makes it easy to move those to the
> appropriate category if there is one.
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> > Subject: Re: Mantra, mon joli mantra, dis moi qui est la plus belle ?
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> > We need to square the ease of use, with the impression that we are not
> friendly and do not want new people.
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> >
> > Using the same facilities you want to be protective of (LDAP) to play
> the same role as “how to join welcome” - is resulting in conflicting goals.
> >
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> > Try and sign up 500 to keep 1. And the impression you make during sign
> up controls if you keep 3.
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> > - -
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> > Jody Garnett
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> --
> Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
> President, Board of Directors
> Open Source Geospatial Foundation
> https://www.osgeo.org/member/angelos-tzotsos/
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