[OSGeo-Standards] Re: [OAB] For the Agenda next teleconference

[Arnulf Christl (OSGeo)]

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> On Sep 29, 2008, at 11:58 AM, John Herring wrote:
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>> OABers.

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>> ITEM: Revisit RESTful and RPC
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>> The Services subgroup is getting nowhere on the original
>> question. Do we want to intervene?
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On Mon, September 29, 2008 19:12, Lieberman Joshua wrote:
> I beg to disagree. There have been useful discussions, a lot of
> clearing away of misconceptions, and development of a discussion paper.
> More productive participation would be helpful, but it is not
> clear how intervention would direct people who are absent from the process
> to produce more.

Hehe. Did I really get this right? Are you saying that "to intervene"
(from OAB level) will not make people join the process who are not there
in the first place? This actually rings very true. All the same - I
support all kinds of intervention that will help prevent things like these
from getting published:

http://www.ec-gis.org/inspire/reports/ImplementingRules/network/Resource_orientated_architecture_and_REST

Please do take the time to read through this and then reflect on whether
OGC really is so sure about SOAP being the solution to all problems. Is
the OGC prepared to support being leveraged as a means to get SOAP based
technology implemented firmly in the implementations rules that will in
future define how badly INSPIRE will fail? I doubt whether this is a good
idea.

Pardon my blunt words.

Unfortunately I will not be able to attend the next OAB telephone
conference because we have the OSGeo AGM at the same time. On top of this
I am at a loss at how to speed up the understanding required to straighten
these issues out. Any help anywhere?

Best regards,

PS:
I am giving a presentation about what is Open in OGC, OSGeo and OSM. This
will be fun. Everybody will hate me, those from the OGC because I say they
are too closed, slow, theoretic, etc. Those from OSM because they believe
I represent the dark side of technology / corporate proprietary domination
and those from OSGeo because I waste my time on the other two. Can someone
please take me by the hand and lead me through this minefield?

Com on, you should at least be able to shed a skewed grin on this.