[OSGeo-Standards] [Board] glossary discussion on osgeo-standards ....
Cameron Shorter
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Mon Nov 4 12:24:54 PST 2019
Thanks for the research Helena,
It sounds like an OSGeo Special Interest Group will address our Lexicon
Committee requirements. Unless there are any objections, I propose to
push forward with our agenda of setting up an email list, building a
committee, selecting a chair, and getting some work done.
If you have any objections, please respond ASAP, ideally within the next
48 hours.
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Further to Helena's research:
* Yes, I'd suggest special interest groups should be listed on the website.
* I found this page: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Interest_Groups which
I'd suggest should be made official by the board. It currently states:
"This page documents the current dicsussion and has not yet been
approved as official OSGeo policy!"
* The OSGeo Standards Committee should get a page somewhere. I'm pretty
sure it had one before, but I can't find it now.
On 2/11/19 1:22 pm, Helena Mitasova wrote:
> I looked into this a little bit and I did not find any Standards
> committee here
> https://www.osgeo.org/about/committees/
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Main_Page
> https://www.osgeo.org/about/board/
>
> But I found OSGeo Standards special interest group and associated
> mailing list:
> http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Special-Interest-Groups-f5179645.html
> http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/OSGeo-Standards-f5012448.html
> Interestingly enough, I could not find the special interest groups on
> the new website - is it something that should be added there?
>
> I don’t think that board vote is needed to establish a special
> interest group and mailing list,
> But the board can voice support and endorsement - I would like to
> voice my support here if the special interest group is the way to go.
>
> Cameron, if you think that it would be better to have Lexicon as an
> official OSGeo committee (with everything that comes with it, see
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Committee_Guidelines), then apparently,
> the board needs to vote to approve the committee chair
> according to the guidelines (which I believe are partially based on
> the bylaws).
>
> I hope this clarifies the process somewhat and cameron please let us
> know which way you would like to go,
>
> Thanks a lot for the initiative, Helena
>
>> On Nov 1, 2019, at 9:13 PM, Cameron Shorter
>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Astroidex, Kalxas, Delawen, Helena, OSGeo Board,
>>
>> Do my answers below address your questions re setting up an OSGeo
>> Lexicon committee?
>>
>> Within the next few weeks I'm hoping to reach out to those from the
>> OSGeo community who have provided glossaries and are likely to be
>> interested in joining a Lexicon committee. From that committee we can
>> elect a chair.
>>
>> I'm prefer to have the OSGeo Board's blessing before progressing
>> further. Is that something you'd be prepared to provide?
>>
>> Cheers, Cameron
>>
>> On 30/10/19 10:17 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>> Hi Angelos, board,
>>> That is a good question. Working the lexicon community within the
>>> standards committee is something we should consider. While I
>>> wouldn't want to rule it out as an option, I'd vote -0 for it.
>>> My reasoning:
>>> * The lexicon committee is only focusing on one very narrow use case
>>> within the greater OSGeo/Standards space.
>>> * The standards committee has a very board focus across all
>>> standards related use cases. In particular, it has focused on
>>> managing the relationship between OSGeo and OGC.
>>> * The lexicon committee will be very noisy within this very specific
>>> lexicon use case. People interested in general standards will be
>>> swapped with emails and I predict we will very quickly kill off any
>>> other standards related conversations due to the noise.
>>> * The standards committee is relatively quiet, and it could be
>>> argued that we could consider retiring the standards committee and
>>> restart it as a lexicon committee. I don't think this is the case. I
>>> think the standards committee still has meaning and purpose.
>>>
>>> For these reasons, I believe the Lexicon and Standards committees
>>> should be kept separate.
>>>
>>> For my next steps, I'm hoping to follow this process:
>>> 1. Get endorsement from the board.
>>> 2. Create a new lexicon at lists.osgeo.org
>>> <mailto:lexicon at lists.osgeo.org> email list
>>> 3. Reach out to OSGeo projects and invite them to join the list and
>>> participate in a committee
>>> 4. Boostrap a lexicon committee
>>> 5. Committee members to vote for a committee chair
>>> 6. Start getting serious about the work we are doing.
>>>
>>> I'm hoping that the board can discuss via email, ask questions which
>>> I'll answer, then we can set up a motion and help us move through
>>> the steps above.
>>>
>>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>>
>>> For reference, I've copied comments from the board meeting:
>>> http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2019-10-28.log
>>>
>>> 16:22:49 helena_: #7 Lexicon committee
>>> 16:23:13 helena_: they keep changing the name but it is an
>>> important initiative
>>> 16:23:37 astroidex: just a question. Could it be part of one
>>> existing committee?
>>> 16:23:47 delawen: (I'm back did I miss any voting?)
>>> 16:23:50 kalxas: I am wondering why this has to be a separate
>>> committee from standards
>>> 16:24:03 astroidex: same for me
>>> 16:24:06 kalxas: delawen, no :)
>>> 16:24:19 astroidex: it could be part of education
>>> 16:24:38 delawen: if they feel they have enough work to be
>>> isolated... see no reason why not
>>> 16:24:43 astroidex: https://www.osgeo.org/about/committees/
>>> 16:24:44 sigq: Title: Committees - OSGeo (at www.osgeo.org
>>> <http://www.osgeo.org/>)
>>> 16:24:44 kalxas: given that OGC and ISO are involved, I think it
>>> should be standards
>>> 16:24:53 delawen: but I would give them some time to do stuff
>>> before making them official
>>> 16:25:41 delawen: If you think it should be standards, we can
>>> answer them that
>>> 16:25:41 kalxas: also, we do need a chair to approve them, right?
>>> 16:26:00 helena_: Angelos - can you please get bcak to Cameron
>>> with suggestion from the board to make it part of standards?
>>> 16:26:25 astroidex: good idea
>>> 16:26:44 kalxas: yes, I can follow up
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 02:30, Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Cameron,
>>>
>>> The formation of the lexicon committee was discussed during the
>>> board
>>> meeting yesterday.
>>> One question that came up is: what is the reason this work
>>> cannot be
>>> done under the standards committee, since this involves members
>>> from
>>> OSGeo, OGC and ISO?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Angelos
>>>
>>> On 10/24/19 12:16 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>> > Angelos,
>>> >
>>> > We haven't discussed selecting a chair of the committee yet,
>>> but I
>>> > will be suggesting Reese and/or Ron as we bootstrap this
>>> committee.
>>> > They both have been been very active in setting up this
>>> initiative and
>>> > come with lots of experience.
>>> >
>>> > On 22/10/19 10:47 pm, Victoria Rautenbach wrote:
>>> >> Dear All
>>> >>
>>> >> This is a great initiative, thank you Cameron and Reese. I fully
>>> >> support this initiative and working with the ISO/TC 211 TMG
>>> on their
>>> >> mature terminology database.
>>> >>
>>> >> Reese, will be great to work with you again!
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards
>>> >> Victoria
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 9:52 AM Angelos Tzotsos
>>> >> <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com <mailto:gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>> Hi Cameron,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Have you decided on a committee chair?
>>> >>> Who will be the point of contact for the board?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Cheers,
>>> >>> Angelos
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 10/21/19 8:32 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> OSGeo Board,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On behalf of Ron, Reese and myself, I've added an item to
>>> the board
>>> >>> agenda requested the board's approval for the setting up of
>>> an OSGeo
>>> >>> Lexicon Committee. Unfortunately none of us will be awake
>>> during
>>> >>> this meeting so will not be in a position to discuss the
>>> proposal in
>>> >>> person. Hopefully if you have any questions you can raise them
>>> >>> before hand in this email thread.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We have started a wiki page for the committee here:
>>> >>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Lexicon_Committee
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks in advance, Cameron
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 19/10/19 4:15 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Angelos, the other end of the day would probably be easier.
>>> I think
>>> >>> this link shows board locations along with Ron (Hong Kong)
>>> and Reese
>>> >>> (Tokyo).
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?year=2019&month=10&day=20&p1=240&p2=248&p3=102&p4=269&p5=250&p6=26&p7=37&p8=286&p9=734
>>>
>>> >>>
>>> <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?year=2019&month=10&day=19&p1=240&p2=248&p3=102&p4=269&p5=250&p6=26&p7=37&p8=286&p9=734>
>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Does anyone else from the OSGeo board have an opinion on this
>>> >>> proposal and wish to share it? We could make the meeting
>>> >>> coordination easier if we narrow participation to only those
>>> with an
>>> >>> interest and an opinion.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 18/10/19 8:16 pm, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In that case we should probably arrange a specific call for
>>> this topic.
>>> >>> I think the only working timeslot would be around
>>> 20:00-22:00 UTC
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 10/17/19 9:24 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Angelos, the board meeting is 3am for me. The 3 of us
>>> involved are
>>> >>> in this Asian/Australia timezone.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Reese, we can get you set up with IRC (Internet Chat Relay)
>>> quite
>>> >>> easily. It is text based only. Quickest way to get started
>>> is with
>>> >>> the web client: https://webchat.freenode.net/
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 17/10/19 10:19 pm, rplews at tc211tmg.org
>>> <mailto:rplews at tc211tmg.org> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> hello Angelos, thank you for the invitation, two issues for me,
>>> >>> local time is 1am and i have never done Internet Relay Chat.
>>> i can
>>> >>> do skype or zoom. if you have another time/date let me
>>> know. sorry
>>> >>> about this time.
>>> >>> reese
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> From:
>>> >>> "Angelos Tzotsos" <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> To:
>>> >>> "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>,
>>> >>> <standards at lists.osgeo.org
>>> <mailto:standards at lists.osgeo.org>>, "board at lists.osgeo.org
>>> <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>"
>>> >>> <board at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>>,
>>> "OSGeo Discussions" <discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org>>
>>> >>> Cc:
>>> >>> "Reese Plews" <rplews at gmail.com <mailto:rplews at gmail.com>>
>>> >>> Sent:
>>> >>> Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:14:37 +0300
>>> >>> Subject:
>>> >>> Re: [OSGeo-Standards] [Board] glossary discussion on
>>> >>> osgeo-standards ....
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi all,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Would someone be available to join our next board
>>> meeting to
>>> >>> discuss this issue?
>>> >>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2019-10-28
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Regards,
>>> >>> Angelos
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 10/15/19 9:52 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> OSGeo Board, OSGeo Discuss,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'd like to introduce you to this proposal that Ron
>>> and Reese
>>> >>> have been developing on the OSGeo Standards email
>>> list, which
>>> >>> I think should fit under the legal structure of an
>>> OSGeo
>>> >>> Committee.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I have vague recollections that setting up a committee
>>> >>> requires board approval? I've found some old tips
>>> on running a
>>> >>> committee here:
>>> >>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Committee_Guidelines
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Comments welcomed.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 15/10/19 4:47 pm, Ronald Tse wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi Cameron,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thank you for the suggestions! I have updated
>>> the proposal
>>> >>> to reflect your comments below.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I would be honored to help with terminology
>>> management at
>>> >>> OSGeo. Can’t speak for Reese but with his
>>> leadership in
>>> >>> already doing terminology cleanup on Felicity’s
>>> sheet, he
>>> >>> seems pretty committed already :-)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Ron
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ———
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Recommendations for OSGeo terminology management
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 1. Establish a terminology management group in
>>> OSGeo.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ISO/TC 211, IEC Electropedia and OGC all have
>>> one for
>>> >>> terminology management. The existence of this
>>> group is
>>> >>> crucial to the success of the OSGeo terminology
>>> database.
>>> >>> It will play two essential roles:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> a) As the gatekeeper of terms to ensure quality
>>> checks of
>>> >>> contributions
>>> >>> b) As the seat of central terminology knowledge for
>>> >>> alignment of terms and concepts. To facilitate
>>> the flow of
>>> >>> terminology knowledge to terminology authors
>>> and users.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> It would be helpful to involve representation
>>> from ISO/TC
>>> >>> 211 and OGC in this group, in order to leverage
>>> their
>>> >>> experience in terminology. Such experience will
>>> be useful
>>> >>> in situations such as alerting on
>>> cross-organization
>>> >>> alignment of concepts or term duplication.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> An email list shall be setup for this group for
>>> internal
>>> >>> communication.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2. Establish a terms of reference for terminology
>>> >>> management.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> For the terminology management group, a terms
>>> of reference
>>> >>> should be produced so that the steps for
>>> approval and data
>>> >>> quality requirements are clear. This should be
>>> openly
>>> >>> shared with contributors so they are clear on
>>> acceptance
>>> >>> criteria.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Contributors may propose changes to the terminology
>>> >>> database at any time. The terminology
>>> management group
>>> >>> shall discuss and approve or disapprove of the
>>> proposal
>>> >>> within a reasonable timeframe. This practice is
>>> in-line
>>> >>> with the open source, change-based, rapid iteration
>>> >>> mantra, similar to OpenSSL.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> For releases, the group shall convene
>>> periodically, such
>>> >>> as every 4-6 months, to discuss previously decided
>>> >>> proposals, governance or technical issues
>>> related to
>>> >>> terminology management.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The method of submitting change requests shall
>>> also be
>>> >>> determined and announced so that contributors
>>> understand
>>> >>> the necessary processes and timeline.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 3. Establish an online terminology database
>>> presence.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Terminology isn’t useful until people use them,
>>> which
>>> >>> means people need to first know they exist and
>>> what they
>>> >>> mean. Geolexica is an initiative that currently
>>> serves
>>> >>> ISO/TC 211’s terminology management group in
>>> making its
>>> >>> multi-lingual geographic information
>>> terminology available
>>> >>> on the internet (https://www.geolexica.org
>>> <https://www.geolexica.org/>). We propose to
>>> >>> use https://osgeo.geolexica.org/ to serve OSGeo in
>>> >>> managing its terminology database. Geolexica
>>> not only
>>> >>> serves human-readable concepts and terms, but
>>> also serves
>>> >>> in machine-readable JSON, allowing APIs to directly
>>> >>> consume the content.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The structure of Geolexica is designed for
>>> efficiency with
>>> >>> streamlined management and operations. Terms
>>> are stored in
>>> >>> structured data (YAML) files, and are directly
>>> deployable
>>> >>> to the website. The website operates according
>>> to best
>>> >>> practices, and is served as a static website
>>> with dynamic
>>> >>> search functionality. Security and performance
>>> have always
>>> >>> been key considerations.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> For terms that originate from other authoritative
>>> >>> terminology databases, such as those from ISO
>>> or OGC, a
>>> >>> linkage shall be established from the OSGeo
>>> terminology
>>> >>> database back to the source.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 4. Use an issue tracker with source code management
>>> >>> functionality as an open communication platform
>>> (e.g.
>>> >>> GitHub).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The issue tracker is used to perform two-way
>>> communication
>>> >>> between OSGeo members and the contributors.
>>> This requires
>>> >>> every contributor to at least have an account,
>>> which helps
>>> >>> minimize spam. The source code management
>>> functionality is
>>> >>> used to manage terminology data in a
>>> machine-useable way.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> There are generally two types of contributors:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> a) those who suggest changes via textual
>>> description, and
>>> >>> b) those who suggest changes but can also
>>> format the
>>> >>> desired content in the data format used by the
>>> terminology
>>> >>> database.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> People can easily help out with the former in
>>> formatting
>>> >>> the changes into a proper data structure
>>> change. This
>>> >>> allows the terminology management group to directly
>>> >>> approve, merge and deploy the proposed term
>>> modifications
>>> >>> (and creations, deletions), all made effective
>>> with a
>>> >>> single click.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 5. Allow easy feedback from terminology users.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> To minimize friction in the feedback process,
>>> for every
>>> >>> term offered in the OSGeo terminology pages we
>>> can offer a
>>> >>> “propose new term” and “propose changes to this
>>> term"
>>> >>> buttons. This allows user to directly go to the
>>> issue
>>> >>> platform (e.g. GitHub) to make the suggested
>>> changes.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> A “contributors guide” document will greatly
>>> help these
>>> >>> people make the proper suggestions and have
>>> them formatted
>>> >>> correctly.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 6. Initial load and data cleanup.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The initial load of the terms will involve a
>>> bulk load
>>> >>> from the cleaned terms and definitions that
>>> Felicity has
>>> >>> compiled. Geolexica could easily handle the initial
>>> >>> conversion from table format into the desired
>>> structured
>>> >>> data format.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The cleanup process has already been started by
>>> Reese
>>> >>> Plews, convenor of the TMG at ISO/TC 211.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _____________________________________
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Ronald Tse
>>> >>> Ribose Inc.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Oct 10, 2019, at 3:34 PM, Cameron Shorter
>>> >>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi Ron,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I really like your proposal. It looks very
>>> practical,
>>> >>> should address quality requirements, and
>>> should be
>>> >>> relatively light weight to manage. Some
>>> >>> comments/suggestions:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> * You might want to mention the approach to
>>> your first
>>> >>> load of terms, which probably should
>>> involve a bulk
>>> >>> load from a derivative of the terms that
>>> Felicity has
>>> >>> compiled.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> * I suggest we set up an email list to
>>> discuss terms.
>>> >>> OSGeo can provide that for us, and I can
>>> coordinate
>>> >>> that, once we have agreed on our approach.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> * I suggest that an updating the glossary
>>> be tied to a
>>> >>> periodic event, at least annually. I think
>>> we should
>>> >>> tie in with the OSGeoLive annual build
>>> cycle for this.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> * You haven't mentioned
>>> https://osgeo.geolexica.org/
>>> >>> <https://osgeo.geolexica.org/> in your description. I
>>> >>> assume that would be part of the solution?
>>> If so, I
>>> >>> suggest mentioning it.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> * Another project I'm helping start up is
>>> >>> https://thegooddocsproject.dev/
>>> >>> <https://thegooddocsproject.dev/> (Writing templates
>>> >>> to make good docs for open source
>>> projects). I expect
>>> >>> that the solution you are proposing would
>>> be valuable
>>> >>> for a wide variety of domains, and should
>>> be captured
>>> >>> as best practices in TheGoodDocsProject. At
>>> some point
>>> >>> in the future, I'm hoping that you might
>>> provide a
>>> >>> generic version of your suggestions for
>>> others to
>>> >>> follow too.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Feel free to add your ideas below into the
>>> wiki at:
>>> >>> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/Glossary%20terms
>>> >>>
>>> >>> (Maybe add "DRAFT" at the top, until we
>>> have the
>>> >>> process set up.)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> * Ron and Reese, I'm hoping that you both will
>>> >>> continue to provide the leadership and
>>> stewardship of
>>> >>> the community as it grows? Your advice has
>>> been great
>>> >>> to date.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> Standards mailing list
>>> >>> Standards at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:Standards at lists.osgeo.org>
>>> >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/standards
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Board mailing list
>>> >>> Board at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:Board at lists.osgeo.org>
>>> >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Charter Member
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Open Source Geospatial Foundation
>>> >>> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Cameron Shorter
>>> >>> Technology Demystifier
>>> >>> Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant
>>> >>>
>>> >>> M +61 (0) 419 142 254
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> Board mailing list
>>> >>> Board at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:Board at lists.osgeo.org>
>>> >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
>>> >>> Charter Member
>>> >>> Open Source Geospatial Foundation
>>> >>> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> Board mailing list
>>> >>> Board at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:Board at lists.osgeo.org>
>>> >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
>>> Charter Member
>>> Open Source Geospatial Foundation
>>> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cameron Shorter
>>> Technology Demystifier
>>> Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant
>>>
>>> M +61 (0) 419 142 254
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Cameron Shorter
>> Technology Demystifier
>> Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant
>>
>> M +61 (0) 419 142 254
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>
> Helena Mitasova
> Professor, Department of Marine, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences
> Faculty Fellow,
> Center for Geospatial Analytics
> North Carolina State University
> Raleigh, NC 27695-8208
> hmitaso at ncsu.edu <mailto:hmitaso at ncsu.edu>
>
>
>
--
Cameron Shorter
Technology Demystifier
Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant
M +61 (0) 419 142 254
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