[Tilecache] WMS shootout, ESRI and ERDAS

[Christopher Schmidt]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:01:28PM -0700, Chris Tweedie wrote:
> 
> Bruce,

I appreciate the response, but I'd prefer (if we prefer to discuss
rendering benchmarks, which aren't even all that useful once TileCache
replaces direct access to your WMS) that we start a new thread that isn't
based on bashing a number of proprietary products, and that we not put 
people on the defensive to start with.

If someone is interested in discusisng performance metrics or benchmarks, the
OSGeo-discuss list (instead of a cross post to half a dozen lists, half of
which were completely unrelated to the topic) would be more appropriate.

Best Regards,
Christopher Schmidt

> Lets set the record straight here. We were invited, but declined. There is
> nothing more to it.
> 
> I will be at FOSS4G on Thursday and Friday on the CCIP booth. Swing by and I
> will sit down and show you whatever you seem to think we are hiding?
> 
> The FOSS4G benchmarks are a great starting point and I would like to think
> we can be involved next year. I really hope customers do much more by way of
> due diligence in selecting enterprise software than just some benchmark
> results. 
> 
> Lets not forget that we are not the only ones not competing in the event.
> Mapguide, Deegree, Mapnik, Cubewerx, Mapinfo, Cadcorp, Manifold  ... the
> list goes on (notice, there is no delineation between OS vs Commercial
> here). There is no conspiracy here mate and I'd be happy to show you.
> 
> Look forward to seeing you next week.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Chris Tweedie
> ERDAS Australia
> 
> 
> 
> Bruce Foster wrote:
> > 
> > Folks,
> > 
> > My eyes went wide open when someone said that ESRI and ERDAS are
> > participating in FOSS4G open WMS shootout or performance benchmarking.
> > Knowing these two companies for the last 15 years, I just couldnt
> > digest the fact. Well, things have changed ... thats what I thought.
> > 
> > Then someone in the list wrote that Erdas is not participating.. Ah..
> > there comes the truth, I thought.. things cant be so much different.
> > They can never tell you what the performance numbers but they have all
> > the energy to tell the world that they are the fastest on earth
> > (truly, thats what they claim). Thats like telling someone I have the
> > fastest car on earth but will not tell you at what speed it goes or
> > what millage it gives (in very very very tiny letters.. it say when
> > you fix a rocket engine!!!). They have the budget to fool people but
> > not to do the test and tell the numbers. Their WMS is not better than
> > anyone else.
> > 
> > Then our big brother, ESRI. I was hoping to see them at FOSS4G
> > presentation here. Just now my colleague said that ESRI dropped out
> > due to resource problem. Fantastic.. typical esri approach... take you
> > to a point where you cant do anything and drop the bomb shell. There
> > are 10,000 guys with that company and they have resource problem !!!!!
> > Their person Sakish wrote to the list that they will participate in
> > CCIP but not WMS.. how sweet. You want the fact? They saw the results
> > of Geoserver and Mapserver and realized that ArcGIS server cant come
> > close to that number.. so drop out... very simple... tell what every
> > you feel like.. because everyone in the gis community is dumb and
> > fool. They had installed the software to the machine, done
> > everything.. but when it comes to doing the actual test that takes
> > only 10 hrs in total.. they have resource problem !!!!!, thats after
> > seeing GS and MS number... not before that. If you want to be
> > competitive, then no company on earth has resource problem.
> > 
> > 
> > Folks, wake up.  If you see these guys, just shoot a point blank
> > question at them. Ask for the truth. All what we want is the
> > performance numbers, is this something difficult ? Dont we have the
> > the right to know the performance before investing money in the
> > software?
> > 
> > In most cases, we have the responsibility of recommending the software
> > for agencies .. why should one take the risk?
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Bruce
> > 
> > NSW, Australia
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