<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Hi Jo<div><br></div><div>My thoughts, others may differ<br><div><br></div><div>Because:<div><ul class="MailOutline"><li>Not everyone likes mailing lists</li><li>Not all of our event attendees over the last x years are on the list or want to be</li><li>The list is better at conversation than broadcast</li><li>The list only supports pretty simple content (limited graphics and layout)</li><li>I don’t think it is possible to segment a list, so everyone gets everything which is far from ideal in an outreach strategy</li></ul><div><br></div><div>I could go on but in summary: if we want to reach out to people who aren’t veterans of the list culture we may want to try different tools</div><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 25 Sep 2023, at 16:28, Jo Cook via UK <uk@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi All,</div><div><br></div><div>I'm going to bite...</div><div><br></div><div>Why would you want the mental burden of having to maintain a second email list for OSGeo:UK? It's not like the existing one is particularly high traffic, so why dilute it even further? <br></div><div><br></div><div>All the best</div><div><br></div><div>Jo<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 2:54 PM Nick Bearman via UK <<a href="mailto:uk@lists.osgeo.org">uk@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div><p>Thanks Steven - this looks good. <br>
</p><p>How important do you think segmentation is? I think it could be
useful going forward if we want to be a bit more strategic - e.g.
sending different emails to people interested in different venues
- but not sure if we want to get that complex!</p><p>Only other thing that comes to mind is GDPR compliance - I assume
they all are, but it is something we should check before signing
up. <br>
</p><p>Any comments from anyone else?</p><p>Best wishes,<br>
Nick.<br>
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<div>On 20/09/2023 3:28 pm, Steven Feldman
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While we were preparing for FOSS4GUK we talked about the
possibility of building a mailing list to send infrequent
newsletters to people who attended our events but might not want
to follow this list. This would help us market to potential
attendees and sponsors.
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<div>I undertook to review the free tiers of several of the
commercial services. I did not consider any self hosted
solutions as I don’t have the skills to stand something like
that up, but if anyone is willing to do that feel free to put
your hand up!</div>
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<div>Here are the best options that I found:</div>
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<li>Zoho is free for up to 2k contacts and 6k emails per month
but has no segmentation <a href="https://www.zoho.com/campaigns/pricing.html?src=dd" target="_blank">https://www.zoho.com/campaigns/pricing.html?src=dd</a></li>
<li>Brevo (formerly Send in Blue) offers unlimited contacts
but only 300 emails per day (so would require batching
somehow) and includes segmentation <a href="https://www.brevo.com/pricing/marketing-platform/see-all-features/" target="_blank">https://www.brevo.com/pricing/marketing-platform/see-all-features/</a></li>
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<li>Sender looks good 2,500 free contacts and 15,000 sends per
month, includes segmentation. They also offer a PAYG model
where we pay £4.68/1000 emails if we need the advanced
features but only a few times per year <a href="https://www.sender.net/pricing/" target="_blank">https://www.sender.net/pricing/</a></li>
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