[Webcom] Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] Introdution tutorials

Mon Feb 26 10:30:22 EST 2007

Puneet,

I just read Ned's e-mail.  I also read Markus's reply just now which captures 
what I wanted to say.  So, what do you say about an IRC meeting?

-Perry

On Monday 26 February 2007 09:16, P Kishor wrote:
> On 2/26/07, Pericles S. Nacionales <naci0002 at umn.edu> wrote:
> > If the Education Committe doesn't want to address this, I will recommend
> > that the Web Committee take it on.  I was really hoping we (the Education
> > Committee) would take a little bit of time to discuss things like this.
> > Perhaps we need another IRC meeting...
>
> Hi Perry,
>
> We did discuss it, and the couple of us who commented (Ned and myself)
> feel that putting links on the wiki is the quickest (see reasoning in
> the included emails below). Perhaps you missed those emails, or
> perhaps you have other ideas. If so, please do tell us your thoughts
> and we will gladly discuss them. The quicker a clear guidance is out
> the best it is for those producing tutorials and wanting to share
> them.
>
> Regards,
>
> Puneet.
>
> > On Saturday 24 February 2007 09:48, P Kishor wrote:
> > > http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Education_and_Curriculum_Committee
> > > section 4 is for "Existing open educational geospatial materials".
> > > Adding a link there would be the easiest. See below for my reasoning
> > > --
> > >
> > > On 2/24/07, Markus Neteler <neteler.osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi eduCom,
> > > >
> > > > for those not following the main discuss list, here a relevant FWD.
> > > > I think that we (eduCom) should take care of this request.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > markus
> > > >
> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > From: Tyler Mitchell <tylermitchell at shaw.ca>
> > > > Date: Feb 22, 2007 12:14 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Introdution tutorials
> > > > To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>, Gary Watry
> > > > <watry at coaps.fsu.edu>
> > > >
> > > > On 21-Feb-07, at 3:52 AM, watry at steam.coaps.fsu.edu wrote:
> > > > > If you go to http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/gis and along the bottom of
> > > > > the page are three tutorials. Quantum GIS, uDig, MapWindows. We are
> > > > > getting ready to produce OpenJump, OSSIM, and one more package this
> > > > > spring.
> > > > >
> > > > > My Question is that at one point in the past, It was discussed
> > > > > about the possibility to place these on the OSGEO Website.
> > > > >
> > > > > So?
> > > > > 1. Is the loading of tutorials on the osgeo website still the
> > > > > concept or is just linking to other sites the plan?
> > >
> > > In my opinion linking would be preferred. Why?
> > >
> > > One, it is the quickest. If you want to add something you made, you
> > > don't have to wait for anyone to help you load it. You just go, edit
> > > the wiki, add the link to your own material, and you are done.
> > >
> > > Two, it keeps the freshest version always available to the public.
> > > Otherwise you would have to keep syncing the one you have loaded on
> > > the OSGeo website with the one you are probably continually developing
> > > in your lab or office.
> > >
> > > Three, by hosting it on your own server, other benefits accrue. For
> > > example, you can keep track of how many folks are downloading your
> > > tutorial by looking at your logs.
> > >
> > > And, finally, four, you don't get into the hassle of figuring the most
> > > suitable license, or being in conformance with OSGeo's processes and
> > > procedures. Just state the license along with the link, and you are
> > > good to go.
> > >
> > > For example --
> > >
> > > - GITTA - Geographic Information Technology Training Alliance with
> > > material under Creative Commons license
> > > - my great tutorial under public domain
> > > - my even better tutorial under capitalist version 2 license
> > >
> > > The only two reasons I can think of why you would want to load a copy
> > > on OSGeo's servers are: one, you don't have the server resources
> > > available to host something; and two, you are creating a package in
> > > colllaboration with others on OSGeo, so wiki is the best method to do
> > > so.
> > >
> > > If these apply, definitely pursue the route suggested by Tyler below,
> > > but be aware of the limitations.
> > >
> > > > > 2. how and where does someone go about doing this?
> > > >
> > > > This hasn't been discussed for a while, but if the Education
> > > > Committee wants to host the files on osgeo.org, that's no problem.
> > > > I'd suggest that the Edu. group start an educational library with
> > > > public domain downloads available and put yours in there.  We have a
> > > > similar library (under development) for promotional material and
> > > > presentations.  Having a branch of it for education would make a lot
> > > > of sense.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone from the Web Committee, including myself, can help get the
> > > > files online for you when ready.
> >
> > --
> > Perry Nacionales
> > Dept. of Forest Resources
> > University of Minnesota
> > naci0002 at umn.edu
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Perry Nacionales
Dept. of Forest Resources
University of Minnesota
naci0002 at umn.edu