[Webcom] web site refactoring [was: Marketing Digest, Vol 16,
lorenzo at ominiverdi.com
Mon Jan 19 06:38:44 EST 2009
Cameron Shorter wrote:
> No need to be sorry. It is excellent to see people taking initiative.
@Daniele: if you can please use a better subject than "Marketing
Digest", we would appreciate.
> Re who is in responsible for what:
> The beauty of OSGeo is that anyone can join any committee, so it is
> incredibly easy for us to restructure ourselves.
> The marketing committee have collectively noted that Websites are
> important for marketing, and that $$ should be allocated to the
> website from the marketing budget. Only $20K (plus I think webcom had
> $10K already?) and that will not go far.
> I think that Webcom should continue to be responsible for the website,
> and also responsible for spending the $20K budget. Any marketing
> people who want to have a say can join the webcom email list. (I
> suspect most of us are on the list already).
I think this is a great initiative but remembers me some projects for
the development I've seen here and there travelling around.
I guess that if you want to give $20K to webcom you should better ask
them if they are interested in and what is their feeling about
priorities (participative approach ).
Chris has sent a good list of objections and I have some more that I've
posted  before.
> daniele.ocu ocu wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> I am veryveryvery sorry If I seemed too hasty in the words I chose in
>> the prior email. Of course that if any actual action in the website
>> is taken, it will be of common desire both of the Marketing
>> committee, of the Webcom and of other who are interested.
>> This is just the beginning, where *_gathering information_* is a
>> crucial part.
>> Getting _*your ideas*_ on what is good about the website and what
>> might be object to change is an extremely important part of planning
>> what can be done.
>> This is JUST AN EFFORT to get the OSGeo Community to *_start
>> discussing and thinking_* of ways to gather more users, contributers,
>> volunteers and *sponsors* to this vibrant community.
>> This is STILL Just a discussion, a place to set ideas.
>> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Christopher Schmidt
>> <crschmidt at metacarta.com <mailto:crschmidt at metacarta.com>> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 03:43:32PM +0900, daniele.ocu ocu wrote:
>> > Dear Marketing committee,
>> > We have started working on the website redesign.
>> I'm concerned that this is being done without interaction with
>> WebCom --
>> or if this interaction is happening, I'm not aware of it.
>> Currently, I've expressed some concerns about the current state
>> of the
>> OSGeo website, but I do not feel that there is sufficient
>> agreement in
>> what the website should *be* that we can discuss Content Design,
>> Design, etc.
>> I have some strong ideas about what the OSGeo website should be --
>> or at
>> least, questions about what it should be that would need answering
>> before any redesign was attempted.
>> Additionally, I think that any website redesign effort can only be
>> undertaken if a sufficiently motivated set of developers in the
>> technology are involved. I'm not convinced that that is currently
>> case; I don't know how much experience you have with the current
>> technology, but I didn't have the impression that you were
>> implementing possible changes in this regard.
>> At the moment, I would like to say that although Marketing can
>> feel free
>> to create an advisory suggestion to WebCom about suggestions for the
>> website, I do ont feel that WebCom has suficient resources to
>> any possible suggestions, and I would consider the feedback from
>> Marketing -- except insofar as it relates directly towards marketing
>> tasks like management of branding -- to be advisory only.
>> Please take this into account in any decisions/investment placed
>> in this
>> SOmetime in the near future, I will do my best to outline my
>> hopes for
>> the OSGeo website to the members of the community; I expect the end
>> result will be a discussion (either on mailing lists or in a more
>> interactive forum) about what the OSGeo website should be. When I do
>> this, I will involve Marketing in that discussion as much as
>> I appreciate the effort you want to go through, but I just feel
>> at the
>> moment that it might be a wasted effort due to lack of general
>> on the tasks needed for the website; if this is the result of some
>> larger discussion I'm missing, I apologize, and I look forward to
>> resolving my confusion. I don't want to stop the Marketing committee
>> from participating in website advisory positions, but I also don't
>> to see anyone put forth effort which may be wasted.
>> Best Regards,
>> Christopher Schmidt
>> Researcher @ Osaka City University
>> Graduate School for Creative Cities
>> Marketing mailing list
>> Marketing at lists.osgeo.org
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