[Webcom] Motion: Ian Edwards joins WebCom

Ian Edwards iedwards.pub at gmail.com
Tue Jul 30 13:04:10 PDT 2013 

Hi Adam,

If we throw away what we currently have and start from scratch then I agree
that views would be the obvious way to go.

As far as I can see, your suggestion doesn't allow an institution to log in
and edit their own profile - instead someone with the correct role can edit
all 'service provider' nodes?

Is your plan for migrating the exiting profile information to cut and
paste?  We'd then remove the old pages and allow external search engines to
reindex?

The new guidelines would be to contact WebCom to get pages added or updated?

I haven't had a proper look, but the custom PHP code does not look that
complicated - but it's proper legacy code and presumably would require live
editing and testing to fix.  I also don't currently understand our LDAP
integration.  I'm happy to test and document what we currently have and
suggest a fix. It's obvious that we'll need to replace this at some stage
in the future, but that probably applies to many other areas of the site
and we'll want approach any redesign in a well thought our and consistent
way.

Ian




On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Adam Włodarkiewicz <
adam.wlodarkiewicz+osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Frank,
>
> I propose introducing a 'service provider' content type. This would give it
> the advantage of customizable permissions and easy integration with views
> among other Drupal goodness. Permissions can be configured to give editing
> rights not just to osgeo.org maintainers, but any user with the correct
> role (again, configurable in Drupal). Such role can be given to users who
> are representatives of the service providers. Views module allows creation
> of different kinds of lists and displays of content. A list containing only
> the service provider content type would be trivial to create, much like
> creating filters to limit the list to only service provider from a given
> country, etc. Further more, this filter can be exposed to the user (for
> example as a select box) and ajax can be used to refresh the list. As far
> as I understand, this pretty much covers the current functionality and
> more, in addition to being drupalish. All of the above mentioned
> configuration can be done via clicking in the administration menu.
>
> Importing existing entries can be easily done via a proper import module,
> assuming it would not be too difficult to export the current data in, for
> example, csv format.
>
> Best Regards,
> Adam
>
> 2013/7/30 Frank Warmerdam <warmerdam at pobox.com>
>
> > Adam,
> >
> > I gather this is the suggestion you made in the ticket?
> >
> > """
> > I suggest rebuilding the service provider directory in Drupal. Every
> > service provider would be a user with a node. Views with exposed filters
> > can be used to show and search the directory.
> >
> > I also volunteer to do that.
> > """
> >
> > Could you go a bit more into how that would work, and how we would
> > transition the existing entries?  It seems promising, but not exactly a
> > minimalist change.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Frank
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Adam Włodarkiewicz <
> > adam.wlodarkiewicz+osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > Jeff told me to write here. I offered to fix #1105 here:
> > > http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1105#comment:10 and, as mentioned
> in
> > > the
> > > issue discussion, I need someone from WebCom to approve my solution and
> > > push it to the server.
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/7/30 Ian Edwards <iedwards.pub at gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > Jeff - I agree and we share your frustration.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately from my perspective, my offer of contributing time over
> > the
> > > > next eight days is only for this specific point-fix. I hope that we
> can
> > > get
> > > > this solved and then move on to important issues.
> > > >
> > > > My reasoning is:
> > > > 1. It's an easy introductory task for me to get used to working with
> > the
> > > > group
> > > > 2. I'm on holiday with family and my computer contact time is limited
> > > > 3. I'm not up to speed with the group's backlog and the specifics of
> > the
> > > > other issues.
> > > >
> > > > I'm happy to dig into #1105 late next week and see if there's
> anything
> > I
> > > > can do to help.  I hope that I can, but this week I'm still finding
> my
> > > > feet.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Jeff McKenna <
> > > > jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I feel this discussion is a lower priority.  The feedback I get
> from
> > > > > around the community is regarding a separate topic, fixing the
> OSGeo
> > > > > Service Provider utility http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1105
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm frustrated in waiting for this.  I keep getting feedback from
> > > > > service providers all around the world quite upset about this.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm looking for the Web Committee to tackle this, manage it, or
> even
> > > get
> > > > > back to me saying "jeff please try for funding from the Board for
> > > > > someone to handle this, we have no time for this effort".
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > -jeff
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2013-07-30 9:48 AM, Ian Edwards wrote:
> > > > > > I should clarify my thoughts - I think that we may still need to
> > > > address
> > > > > > the issues raised by Frank and others sometime in the future.
>  But
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > > us consistent and up to date as soon as possible I'm +1.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (promoting OSGeo Live at the same time is a very valuable
> > consequence
> > > > and
> > > > > > gives people an easy route to trialing the software.  If we find
> a
> > > > > > different solution inthe future then I think it should continue
> to
> > > > > > highlight the value that OSGeo provides through OSGeo Live).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 29 Jul 2013 23:38, "Frank Warmerdam" <warmerdam at pobox.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Ian Edwards <
> > > iedwards.pub at gmail.com>
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hi Cameron,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I've always been +1 agreeing with you on this. In fact it's the
> > > > reason
> > > > > I
> > > > > >>> joined WebCom.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> But there have been some quiet counter arguments voiced off
> list.
> > > Is
> > > > > >> WebCom
> > > > > >>> happy to vote on this so that we can progress to a solution? Or
> > > does
> > > > > this
> > > > > >>> need approval higher up?  Chris - what are your thoughts?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Cameron,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I was the quietly voiced counter argument, for the reasons
> given.
> > >  I'm
> > > > > >> essentially -0 on the motion for the reasons given, but if there
> > is
> > > a
> > > > > >> consensus on webcom to go this way I can certainly live with it.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Best regards,
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >>
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> >
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