[intl-discuss] Minutes from meeting from organisations marketing
into Asia/Pacific
Frans Thamura
frans at meruvian.org
Thu Mar 26 05:09:20 EDT 2009
my work here, to make sure the gap between vocational high school and
industry , is getting less and less
here, in indonesia we produce 7 million high school graduate, and 50%
cannot work.. and only 10% can go to university, but because the
university program getting worst here, mostly 40% of the undergradute
cannot work.
goverment here also is not as good as we know, but i got info, all
goverment all smiliar world wide ;)
so my job right now to train people mostly in high school, make a
curriculum for them, and i discussed this idea with Geoff Zeiss last
september in San Fransisco @ Oracle OpenWorld, we met there, mostly
every year ;) hopefully next september
now our program is more bigger, i put Java, PHP, and Linux and we want
GIS there, Geoff donate the Map Guide training, and we will try to
make mapServer available, but we are very busy we have several problem
here.
1. the goverment work slow amazingly, and mostly the work now become
our work, from curriculu, online exam, and make sure the student work
after graduate, and also internship here, and the teacher also have
problem.
2. we need global program that support or a global program that can be
distrubte here, i am glad if OSGeo also have this program for Asia :)
or developemnt country, right now i try to promote Map Guide because
we have :"Autodesk" brand and the most complete one
any comment for this program?
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org> wrote:
> i dont know the situation outside indonesia
>
> may be you must contact UNDP, Francois work on this
>
> he is the guy work for UNDP, and the UNDP FOSS program is funded by
> inwent.org,
>
>
>
> UNDP also doing training here for sahara and mapserver.
>
> anyway mapserver helps tsunami in aceh and several program in sumatera
>
> but i cannot messge the guy that install there, dunno why, his yahoo
> still online.
>
>
> i cc with him
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Cameron Shorter
> <cameron.shorter at lisasoft.com> wrote:
>> Thank you for the introduction Frans.
>>
>> I'm excited to hear someone with you experience and connections
>> getting involved.
>>
>> If you have suggestions on how to make FOSS4G better for Indonesians
>> please let us know. In particular, I'd like Asian representatives to
>> join the selection committee for FOSS4G presentations.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Cameron Shorter
>>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Thank you Frans,
>>>> Should I make you the primary contact person who will forward emails on to
>>>> the Meruvian Foundation?
>>>>
>>>
>>> me :)
>>>
>>> i am the founder, and the foundation basically is the idea of Rick
>>> Higgins and Geoff Zeis, about me ;)
>>>
>>> but because my background is start from Java OpenSource movement so i
>>> have a fullstack java education program here, and we extend become
>>> jTechnopreneur Program, right now i am managing several vocational
>>> high school, and universities, under meruvian network
>>>
>>> we have offices all over java island, and right now we just have 2
>>> material from Geoff Zeiss for MapGUide and Arnulf (Map Server)
>>>
>>> but we have working together in Indonesia since 2003 with Geoff and Rick .
>>>
>>> i believe my offices (Jakarta, Bandung, Jogja, Surabaya), next month
>>> in Malang will help penetrate the program
>>>
>>> i am also the head of enterprise opensource program in indonesian open
>>> source asosiasion (http://www.aosi.or.id)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm interested to know if you know of potential presenters from Indonesia
>>>> who you may be able to invite.
>>>> I expect people will be very interested to hear of any Open Source
>>>> Geospatial projects being implemented in Indonesia, especially the business
>>>> case behind it and any political reasons for selecting open source.
>>>
>>> i think botasupal is one of the contact, i am still have small
>>> engagement with them, this departement is responsible for develop
>>> indonesian map.
>>>
>>> F
>>>>
>>>> Frans Thamura wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> hi there
>>>>>
>>>>> if you can put my meruvian foundation in the list to penetrate
>>>>> opensource GIS, put us in your list
>>>>>
>>>>> we are now very focus in education link, to help our standard more
>>>>> skillfull with current status (gap industry and education is amazingly
>>>>> bad)
>>>>>
>>>>> F
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Cameron Shorter
>>>>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had a meeting with a number of organisations who are currently
>>>>>> marketing
>>>>>> Standards and Open Source Geospatial into Asia who are interested in
>>>>>> taking
>>>>>> part in FOSS4G.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The participants have all now joined this
>>>>>> www_international-discuss at lists.osgeo.org email list, and I encourage
>>>>>> participants to add any thoughts they have so far.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also encourage the international list participants to add your ideas,
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> ask specific questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See the Notes below for some very pointed advice and questions that we
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> to follow up on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2009_Organising_Committee_Meetings#2009.2F03.2F25_Marketing_into_Asia.2FPacific
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/03/25 Marketing into Asia/Pacific
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Agenda:* Our aim today is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * To engage organisations currently marketing into Asia/Pacific to
>>>>>> advise and help with FOSS4G marketing FOSS4G.
>>>>>> * open lines of communication
>>>>>> * identify ideas from the group - to be followed up via email
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00 Introductions, including listing your contacts and ideas for
>>>>>> connecting into Asia
>>>>>> 10 Open for questions and discussion
>>>>>> 40 Meeting close
>>>>>> Time:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=3&day=25&hour=0&min=0&sec=0&p1=240&p2=196&p3=248&p4=256
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=3&day=25&hour=0&min=0&sec=0&p1=240&p2=196&p3=248&p4=256>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Attendees:*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Arnold Wong, Director of Landgate International, selling
>>>>>> Landgate's SDI into Asia and Middle East.
>>>>>> * Venka Raghavan, prominent, well respected and well connectd OSGeo
>>>>>> evangelist in Asia, based in Japan, with strong links in
>>>>>> particular in China, Vietnam, Thailand, ...
>>>>>> * Mike Ridout, Coorporative Research Center for Spatial Information
>>>>>> (CRCSI). The CRCSI has been building relationships in Asia,
>>>>>> notably in China.
>>>>>> * Geoff Zeiss, Autodesk evangelist. Regular presenter, networker and
>>>>>> blogger at International Geospatial conferences. Has strong
>>>>>> connections into Indonesia.
>>>>>> * Harley Prowse, Director of GeoBiz in New Zealand, connected in New
>>>>>> Zealand, and on the FOSS4G Organising Committee
>>>>>> * Andrew Bashfield, has years of Geospatial Experience and contacts
>>>>>> in Australia.
>>>>>> * Julia Vernon, Tour Hosts, our conference organisor
>>>>>> * Melbourne University School of Geomatics, working with Global SDI
>>>>>> and Asia Pacific SDI, including email lists for these communities:
>>>>>> o Abbas Rajabifard, (sends his apologies)
>>>>>> * OGC: Leading the "Climate Challenge Integration Plugfest" at
>>>>>> FOSS4G and networking at an international level.
>>>>>> o Greg Buehler
>>>>>> * OSGeo
>>>>>> o Jeff McKenna (OSGeo conference committee chair)
>>>>>> o Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo head)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Notes:*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Venka asks "FOSS4G local committees want to know what they should
>>>>>> be doing to get involved".
>>>>>> * Arnold notes that feedback he has received is that FOSS4G is
>>>>>> perceived to be a techie conference and doesn't target the
>>>>>> Business decision makers.
>>>>>> o Cameron noted that our aim is to target both the techies,
>>>>>> and management, by providing business drivers for Open Source.
>>>>>> o Action: We need to adjust our marketing to highlight our
>>>>>> focus on business drivers.
>>>>>> * Suggestion that we invite government ministers, both Australian
>>>>>> and from our region to present.
>>>>>> * Geoff notes that Indonesia and Malaysia have made OSGeo a
>>>>>> government initiative.
>>>>>> * Discussion will continue on
>>>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/www_international-discuss
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Cameron Shorter
>>>>>> Geospatial Systems Architect
>>>>>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>>>>>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Think Globally, Fix Locally
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>>>>>> http://www.lisasoft.com
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cameron Shorter
>>>> Geospatial Systems Architect
>>>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>>>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>>>
>>>> Think Globally, Fix Locally
>>>> Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
>>>> http://www.lisasoft.com
>>>>
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>>>
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>> Cameron Shorter
>> Geospatial Systems Architect
>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>
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