Fw: [Aust-NZ] Finding a way forward - GeoNetwork as platform to support ANZLIC Profile of ISO 19115/19139

Tue May 20 19:55:35 EDT 2008

IMO:

Thanks for the comments Rob,

(Can all people please ensure that the OSGeo-AustNZ list is included in 
replies, I'd like to keep the list as the archive record for this thread?)

Agreed, a branch is not ideal for the medium to long term.

Ideally from these discussions we'll get the momentum to establish the 
mechanism whereby metadata profiles can be configured as 'plugins' to the 
stable GeoNetwork version that is current at that point in time.

Until this occurs, we have to find a better way of collaborating to 
ensuring a consistent, quality approach. What we are doing now is not 
working and resulting in duplicated effort. Therefore, I'd like to see all 
proposals explored and a preferred way forward agreed on. 

wrt 'Reference Architecture', I can't speak for others, however:

- I don't think that this is a space that OSGeo would want to get into.

- I wouldn't want to be prescriptive on what the projects can and can't 
do. We are talking about projects that thrive on innovation.

- I think that this is a role that is more appropriately handled by the 
OGC, in this instance with the CSW standard. As I understand it, 
GeoNetwork already supports CSW (excluding support for ebRIM 
functionality).

Jeroen may wish to comment further on the GeoNetwork communities thoughts 
and intentions here.

Bruce Bannerman

"Rob Atkinson" <robatkinson101 at gmail.com> 
21/05/2008 09:14 AM

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Re: Fw: [Aust-NZ] Finding a way forward - GeoNetwork as platform to 
support ANZLIC Profile of ISO 19115/19139

We should not be looking at a branch - there is nothing wierd about the 
ANZLIC profile.

Geonetwork needs to be capable of being configured with a profile of a 
baseline standard it supports (ISO 19115 in this case) - this is _THE_ 
basic metadata implementation pattern. Putting the key piece of core 
configuration capability required onto a branch is rather non-sensical.

in fact, all tiers of an OS SDI reference implementatiuon (tools and 
architecture) need to follow the pattern - this is the goal of the SISS 
project.

FYI. I'm currently drawing up some architecture ideas for this, on behalf 
of the SISS project. This is a somewhat slow process as I have a day a 
week assigned to this and i'm doing a little geoserver effort support at 
the same time. 

The broader challenge of how we effectively share architectural patterns 
is also a concern - we design by starting from scratch, or "clone and 
modify" from existing designs, and wonder why we have difficulty joining 
the bits back together once built. Is there a role for a "reference 
architecture" for OSGEO?

Regards
Rob Atkinson

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:34 PM, <Bruce.Bannerman at dpi.vic.gov.au> wrote:

IMO: 

This is a resend for people who are not following the thread on the 
OSGeo-AustNZ list. 

Bruce Bannerman 

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20/05/08 08:19 PM 

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ANZLIC Profile of ISO 19115/19139

Thank you to all who have responded so far.

We're starting to get a snapshot of open source spatial work that is
going on around Australia and New Zealand. It is certainly starting to
take off.

Please keep the comments coming, so that we as a community get a better
understanding of the issues involved. 

I would like to reiterate that this email thread is not intended as a
criticism of any group or individual.

While I had originally wondered what we, as a community, could do to
support Simon with the GeoNetwork ANZLIC Profile work, I can see that it
is rapidly turning into:

How can we support Simon, Byron, Cameron, Robert and a number of other
organisations in their GeoNetwork ANZLIC Profile work?

We have the beginnings of an open source community. Where to from here?

What we eventually put in place could have potential for other
Australian and New Zealand specific open source spatial work in the
future.

I'd also like to hear some thoughts from some of our more experienced
open source developers. 

To kick things off:

I've had an off line email from Jeroen Ticheler from the GeoNetwork
community. Jeroen is keen to help us where he can.

He has suggested that if it is required, it may be possible establish a
branch with ANZLIC support on the Geonetwork SubVersion.

Please keep the comments coming. This is very informative.

Bruce Bannerman

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