[Board] Please review: Open Letter asking to avoid format fragmentation in LiDAR standards

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Mon Apr 20 07:28:10 PDT 2015


As Bart mentioned,
* After initially being written, the letter was sent to OSGeo standards 
list, asking for review.
* Suchith sent to OGC TC-Discuss list for review, and ESRI responded.
* After ~ 1 week for review, the letter was forwarded to OSGeo discuss 
and a few others, asking for signatures (we have ~ 70 signatures, 
growing every day)
* As per this email thread below, I've asked OSGeo board's approval to 
officially present this letter.
* Today I've had inquiries from mass media. I've asked them to hold off 
on breaking the story until the board gives approval to officially 
present the letter, which will add extra weight to the letter. They 
didn't publish today, but may publish in 12 to 48 hours. (Media 
organisations have a strong desire to be the first to publish).

So now the board has had time to consider, can you please all vote on 
following 2 proposals:

I request the board support an OSGeo Community developed Open
        Letter aimed at protecting open LiDAR standards.
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LIDAR_Format_Letter

        Proposal 1: The OSGeo Board agree to include the following
        statement (or similar wording) into the letter:

        = Cover Letter from the OSGeo Board =

        The board of the [http://osgeo.org <http://osgeo.org/> Open
        Source Geospatial Foundation] (OSGeo) is presenting this
        letter to the OGC, ESRI and ASPRS. The letter highlights
        concerns about fragmentation in LiDAR standards from many
        people within the OSGeo community. As always, if there is
        anything the OSGeo board can do to help, then please let us know.

        Signed: <OSGeo Board Members>

        Proposal 2:
        Once the letter has completed the signature phase, the letter
        be emailed from the OSGeo President to key people within these
        organisations:

        Mark Reichardt <mreichardt AT opengeospatial.org 
<http://opengeospatial.org>
        <http://opengeospatial.org>>, OSGeo President
        David Danko <DDanko AT esri.com <http://esri.com> 
<http://esri.com>>, ESRI's
        Senior Consultant for GIS Standards
        Stephen D. DeGloria < sdd4 AT cornell.edu <http://cornell.edu>
        <http://cornell.edu>>, President of the ASPRS



On 20/04/2015 10:50 pm, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> this was sent to discuss 1 week ago [1]. It has also been sent to the 
> OGC TC-Discuss list where Esri has even responded.
>
> [1]
> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-April/014137.html
>
> Best regards,
> Bart
>
>> On 20 Apr 2015, at 14:44, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com 
>> <mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>> wrote:
>>
>> That would be good Maxi, as my concern is getting community feedback 
>> before the Board reviews such a request.
>>
>> Has this letter been sent yet to the general OSGeo community for 
>> review?  (the Discuss list) I think it is great that the Standards 
>> group reviewed it, maybe now it is ready for the general OSGeo community.
>>
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2015-04-20 6:18 AM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
>>> Thare are interesting discussions running on the italian chapter list.
>>> It would be nice if someone could wrap-up a short summary of interesting
>>> points.
>>>
>>> I could do it in the next days if none is available.
>>>
>>> Maxi
>>>
>>> 2015-04-20 10:30 GMT+02:00 Jachym Cepicky <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>>:
>>>
>>>    I'm fine with that
>>>
>>>    pá 17. 4. 2015 v 8:56 odesílatel Bart van den Eijnden
>>>    <bartvde at osgis.nl <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl> 
>>> <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl>> napsal:
>>>
>>>        Hello board,
>>>
>>>        do people still need time to comment on the letter or can we
>>>        call for a motion on this?
>>>
>>>        Best regards,
>>>        Bart
>>>
>>>>        On 16 Apr 2015, at 13:52, Cameron Shorter
>>>>        <cameron.shorter at gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>
>>>>        wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        Hi OSGeo Board,
>>>>
>>>>        I request the board support an OSGeo Community developed Open
>>>>        Letter aimed at protecting open LiDAR standards.
>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LIDAR_Format_Letter
>>>>
>>>>        Proposal 1: The OSGeo Board agree to include the following
>>>>        statement (or similar wording) into the letter:
>>>>
>>>>        = Cover Letter from the OSGeo Board =
>>>>
>>>>        The board of the [http://osgeo.org <http://osgeo.org/> Open
>>>>        Source Geospatial Foundation] (OSGeo) is presenting this
>>>>        letter to the OGC, ESRI and ASPRS. The letter highlights
>>>>        concerns about fragmentation in LiDAR standards from many
>>>>        people within the OSGeo community. As always, if there is
>>>>        anything the OSGeo board can do to help, then please let us 
>>>> know.
>>>>
>>>>        Signed: <OSGeo Board Members>
>>>>
>>>>        Proposal 2:
>>>>        Once the letter has completed the signature phase, the letter
>>>>        be emailed from the OSGeo President to key people within these
>>>>        organisations:
>>>>
>>>>        Mark Reichardt <mreichardt AT opengeospatial.org 
>>>> <http://opengeospatial.org>
>>>>        <http://opengeospatial.org>>, OSGeo President
>>>>        David Danko <DDanko AT esri.com <http://esri.com> 
>>>> <http://esri.com>>, ESRI's
>>>>        Senior Consultant for GIS Standards
>>>>        Stephen D. DeGloria < sdd4 AT cornell.edu <http://cornell.edu>
>>>>        <http://cornell.edu>>, President of the ASPRS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        On 11/04/2015 12:14 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>        Hi all,
>>>>>        A number of us have been collaboratively developing an Open
>>>>>        Letter asking key stakeholders to avoid fragmentation in
>>>>>        LiDAR standards.
>>>>>
>>>>>        It starts:
>>>>>        /We, the undersigned, are concerned that the current
>>>>>        interoperability between LiDAR applications, through use of
>>>>>        the open "LAS" format, is being threatened by ESRI's
>>>>>        introduction and promotion of an alternative "Optimized LAS"
>>>>>        proprietary format. This is of concern since the
>>>>>        fragmentation of the LAS format will lead to reduced
>>>>>        interoperability between applications and organisations, and
>>>>>        introduce vendor lock-in./
>>>>>
>>>>>        Could all interested please:
>>>>>        1. Review and provide feedback to this standards email list
>>>>>        2. If you agree with the letter, please add your name to the
>>>>>        "Signed" section
>>>>>
>>>>>        --
>>>>>        Cameron Shorter,
>>>>>        Software and Data Solutions Manager
>>>>>        LISAsoft
>>>>>        Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
>>>>>        26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
>>>>>
>>>>>        P +61 2 9009 5000, Wwww.lisasoft.com 
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>>>>> 9009 5099
>>>>
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