[Board] Diversity/Inclusiveness

[Jeff McKenna]

María I am hesitant to force anyone into an existing group or committee, 
if they feel that a new group is needed at OSGeo.  Maybe the CoC team 
(which is actually still working, in fact Kristin just promoted OSGeo's 
CoC to the OSM-diversity-talk mailing list yesterday) could keep as-is 
(as there is a functional mailing list, private/reporting mechanism) but 
work closely with this new OSGeo diversity group.  It is up to you really.

I thoroughly respect the efforts of Kristin Bott driving this (along 
with Camille Acey initially) for OSGeo, and I am sure that she would be 
happy if you sent some ideas (for a new group, or how your plan works 
with the OSGeo code of conduct or what is missing) to the coc-discuss list.

-jeff




On 2018-03-02 9:27 AM, María Arias de Reyna wrote:
> In fact, the last "news" from the committee are that they don't have 
> enough volunteers/resources in 2015:
> 
> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/coc-discuss/2015-December/000035.html
> 
> Unless there is something more recent that I can't find.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 2:22 PM, María Arias de Reyna <delawen at gmail.com 
> <mailto:delawen at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi,
> 
>     I thought this committee was already closed, as I haven't seen any
>     activity recently. Also, I can't find the list of members or how
>     they are chosen.
> 
>     If it is still working, I would include them, sure. But we have to
>     make sure we have a diverse team writing the guidelines. There are
>     things that if you haven't experience yourself, it is difficult to
>     address. For example, I have only experienced soft racism and I have
>     no idea about transexual experience. I wouldn't dare to write about
>     that parts.
> 
> 
> 
>     On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 2:12 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com
>     <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>         Could this be a collaboration within the existing code of
>         conduct committee? Rather than trip up volunteers we already
>         have who have expressed passion towards supporting diversity?
>         On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 1:51 AM María Arias de Reyna
>         <delawen at gmail.com <mailto:delawen at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>             Hi,
> 
>             On yesterday's board meeting we talked (briefly) about the
>             problem with diversity and inclusiveness in OSGeo and
>             FOSS4G. We intend to talk more about this in Bonn:
> 
>             https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2018-03-01#Inclusiveness_guidelines_for_conferences
>             <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2018-03-01#Inclusiveness_guidelines_for_conferences>
> 
>             The proposal that has been made for this  (thanks Jeff and
>             others*) is:
> 
>               * Create a working group for diversity inside OSGeo
>               * Create guidelilnes for conferences
>               * Review CoC
> 
>             Although I already expressed my fear of creating this
>             working group before next FOSS4G, as members of that group
>             will be sensitively targeted just by being part of it.
> 
>             I am still following OSM advancements on this and maybe we
>             can take part of their work for us:
>             https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct
>             <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct>
> 
>             Some of the GeoChicas (the spanish women group in OSM)
>             already expressed their desire to work with us and help.
> 
>             I know that the part of reviewing the CoC may be sensitive
>             too, but most of the CoC written in the past decade are very
>             open to ambiguities and do a lot of cargo culting and
>             focuses on effects, not on causes. I want to make sure our
>             CoC does not follow that and is really useful. If you
>             compare it with the CoC OSM is writing, you can see there
>             are many differences. At this point I am not sure what parts
>             should be rewritten, that's why I want a working group on that.
> 
>             Cheers,
>             María.
> 
>             * not sure to what extent they want their names here
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>         -- 
>         --
>         Jody Garnett
> 
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