[OSGeo-Discuss] Batch geocoding

Sat Feb 5 09:52:13 PST 2011

Hola Alvaro,

No, I wasn't aware of Cartociudad. It looks very interesting. Now I have so
many choices, I don't know what to do.

Thanks!
JP

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Alvaro Zabala <azabala at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Do you know cartociudad project, from spanish IGN?
>
> It have web services related with spanish street map, and one of this is
> geocoding service:
>
> http://www.cartociudad.es/portal/pdf/CARTOCIUDAD_Direcciones.pdf
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
> On 4 February 2011 21:27, JP Glutting <jpglutting at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Wladimir,
>>
>> That is sort of what I thought. Too bad. I was just in Barcelona
>> yesterday, at the CSIC, to get data. Where do you work?
>>
>> I am on the geoinquiets list too, but I am afraid I am on so many lists
>> and in so many projects that I don't keep close track of them all. I should
>> hop over and introduce myself, though.
>>
>> Fins aviat,
>> JP
>>
>> Public Health - GIS - Bioinformatics
>> http://www.bmeisis.com
>> <http://www.bmeisis.com/>http://www.jpglutting.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Wladimir Szczerban <bolosig at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi JP,
>>>
>>> I live in Barcelona and unfortunately there is no open geocoding service
>>> in Barcelona. In the group of geoinquietos (http://www.geoinquiets.cat/
>>> or http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Geoinquiets_Barcelona) we are trying to
>>> get the ICC (http://www.icc.cat/) the official agency open the geocoding
>>> service they have.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> BOLO
>>>
>>> 2011/2/4 Stark Hans-Jörg <hansjoerg.stark at fhnw.ch>
>>>
>>> Any initiative for OA is appreciated highly ;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> hj
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Von:* discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:
>>>> discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] *Im Auftrag von *JP Glutting
>>>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 4. Februar 2011 16:17
>>>>
>>>> *An:* OSGeo Discussions
>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Batch geocoding
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There might be a data sharing initiative, there are several different
>>>> actors (city, regional government, etc.). I don't know all of what there is
>>>> out there, and the data was originally collected for another project.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think I will be Ok with Yahoo. If it works out, it shouldn't be
>>>> difficult to export the dataset for openaddresses. It isn't my data, though,
>>>> so I will have to ask permission first. It seems like a good idea, though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> JP
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Stark Hans-Jörg <
>>>> hansjoerg.stark at fhnw.ch> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Von:* discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:
>>>> discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] *Im Auftrag von *JP Glutting
>>>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 4. Februar 2011 15:34
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *An:* OSGeo Discussions
>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Batch geocoding
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Hans-Jörg,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am not aware that Barcelona (the city?) has a very open geodata
>>>> strategy, but that certainly would be nice. If you know of anyone in the
>>>> area who might know more, I am more than willing to contact them.
>>>>
>>>> *[shj] my mistake. I thought I had read something on this some time
>>>> ago. Maybe also because Spain has strong support in the FOSS domain.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have the addresses, do you mean the coordinates? The address format is
>>>> not ideal, but I am pretty happy with them, as they seem to geocode well in
>>>> the tests I have done.
>>>>
>>>> *[shj] yes, addresses along with co-ordinates.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Yahoo API allows geocoding of 50k addresses a day, which is plenty
>>>> for what I need. I am going to try to use that.
>>>>
>>>> *[shj] that’ll certainly do.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> JP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Stark Hans-Jörg <
>>>> hansjoerg.stark at fhnw.ch> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi JP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Barcelona is unfortunately not well covered yet in OA. But I thought
>>>> that Spain has a very “open” strategy in terms of providing geodata. If you
>>>> manage to get Barcelona addresses (perhaps from council or any other
>>>> “official body”) the OA team will insert these into OA and then you can use
>>>> the REST service.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good luck!
>>>>
>>>> -hj
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Von:* discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:
>>>> discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] *Im Auftrag von *JP Glutting
>>>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 4. Februar 2011 15:24
>>>> *An:* OSGeo Discussions
>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Batch geocoding
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for all the responses! I will track them all down and see how
>>>> they work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stark, I have 146,472 addresses in the city of Barcelona. Many of them
>>>> are duplicates, but at the very least I have 31,514 that need to be coded,
>>>> although that would leave out many that I want to use. I am in the process
>>>> of developing filters to clean out apartment numbers, etc., to be able to
>>>> pull a single coordinate for a whole set of addresses, and there are at
>>>> least 6,000 that are invalid (from the original 146k, so 140k). It is a lot.
>>>> I will take a look at openaddresses and do some testing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> JP
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Stark Hans-Jörg <
>>>> hansjoerg.stark at fhnw.ch> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The OpenAddresses project (www.openaddresses.org) is supposed to solve
>>>> exactly your problem.
>>>>
>>>> You can use the provided geocoding services (
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/openaddresses/wiki/RESTService)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OpenAddresses has some regions where data was donated – there you will
>>>> get high-quality results. Unfortunately this is not yet globally available…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hth
>>>>
>>>> -hj
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Von:* discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:
>>>> discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] *Im Auftrag von *JP Glutting
>>>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 4. Februar 2011 14:34
>>>> *An:* discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>>>> *Betreff:* [OSGeo-Discuss] Batch geocoding
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a large set of addresses (around 150k) that I need to geocode for
>>>> a study (my Masters thesis on heat-related mortality). I am looking into
>>>> different solutions, but I can't find anything that seems like it would work
>>>> properly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I could script a solution using Google's map API, but there is a limit
>>>> of 2,500 addreses per day (I can get around them with a little patience).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Right now the best solution I am looking at geopy for geocoding
>>>> addresses (http://code.google.com/p/geopy/). It seems like a good
>>>> system, I think I can use it to pull addresses out of my database and write
>>>> back coordinates. There is one thing that I am not sure, about, though, is
>>>> whether I am actually allowed to use the Google API without my use being
>>>> liked to a specific web page. The terms of service and form for getting a
>>>> Google API key require a URL linked to a Google account. In fact, it looks
>>>> like the API can only be used through a web site:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "5.2 *Account Key*. After supplying Google with your account
>>>> information and the URL of your Maps API Implementation, and accepting the
>>>> Terms, you will be issued an alphanumeric key assigned to you by Google that
>>>> is uniquely associated with your Google Account and the URL of your Maps API
>>>> Implementation. Your Maps API Implementation must import the Google Maps
>>>> APIs using this key as described in the Maps APIs Documentation<http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/>,
>>>> and Google will block requests with an invalid key or invalid URL. You may
>>>> only obtain and use a key in accordance with these Terms and the Maps
>>>> APIs Documentation <http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/>."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So it looks like I can't even get it to work without a URL.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can always write a script that loops through results extracted from
>>>> the database, creates URLs and parses the XML results one at a time, but
>>>> that seems like a fairly inelegant solution.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any good ideas about how to geocode a few thousand
>>>> addresses?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>
>>>> JP
>>>>
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