[OSGeo-Discuss] Confusion in the FOSS4G brand [was Mapnik (GPX) vs MapServer/GeoServer (OGC)] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Venkatesh Raghavan raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp
Fri Nov 18 02:42:05 EST 2011


Mori-san,

Nice to relive the 2004 Bangkok nostalgia!

And FOSS4G related papers that we co-authored back in 2004 that can be
viewed at the links below;

http://dlisv03.media.osaka-cu.ac.jp/infolib/user_contents/kiyo/DB00011169.pdf
http://gisws.media.osaka-cu.ac.jp/grass04/viewpaper.php?id=35

And the more about the history of foss4g.org domain in thread below;

http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2007-October/000405.html
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2007-August/000379.html

Best

Venka

On 2011/11/18 15:20, "Toru Mori (? ?)" wrote:
> Bruce,
>
> Venka used the word "FOSS4G" in 2004 in Bangkok Thailand first time ever on
> globe, 2 years before the international conference in Lausanne. (Please see
> attached photo)
> As a person co-working with Venka (inventor of "FOSS4G") for many years, I know
> he says that FOSS4G can be used by everybody who promotes "foss4g tools". So
> there is no restriction in using "FOSS4G" brand as long as promoting foss4g tools.
> It has been already used by many local chapters, conferences and communities.
> FOSS4G belongs to wider community, not to just only one "regal organization".
>
> If you think "FOSS4G" should be used for only "international conference", I
> would suggest you come up with another naming, instead of FOSS4G.
>
> Toru Mori
> OSGeo Japan/ Organizer of FOSS4G 2008-2011 Tokyo/Osaka
>
> On 2011/11/18, at 14:13, Bruce Bannerman wrote:
>
> >  I don't like the idea of having multiple variants to the FOSS4G name.
> >
> >  I believe that it weakens and detracts from the value of FOSS4G as **the**
> >  international event that brings open source spatial people together in a
> >  'gathering of the tribes'.
> >
> >  As a former organiser of FOSS4G-2009, if I was faced with the opportunity to
> >  again host the prestigious FOSS4G event, as things stand at present I would
> >  not get involved. This is due to the weakening of the brand and confusion in
> >  the marketplace. For example, do I go to FOSS4G, FOSS4G.AU, FOSS4G.US,
> >  FOSS4G.UK, FOSS4G.ID etc etc? What is the difference between them?
> >
> >
> >  We have colleagues who are trying to organise FOSS4G-2012. All of this
> >  discussion is making their job much, much harder than it needs to be.
> >
> >  Lets get behind them and support their hard work. It is certainly not easy to
> >  organise such an event and takes considerable effort and devotion.
> >
> >
> >  By all means hold regional events. These are very important for spreading
> >  information.
> >
> >  But please let's find a different name.
> >
> >
> >  Bruce Bannerman
> >
> >
> >
> >  On 18/11/11 3:38 PM, "Frans Thamura"<frans at meruvian.org
> >  <mailto:frans at meruvian.org>>  wrote:
> >
> >  got another idea
> >
> >  should we buy foss4g.or.id<http://foss4g.or.id>  for indonesia, and foss4g.jp
> >  <http://foss4g.jp>  for japan?
> >
> >  but i love have a consolidation work together
> >
> >  F
> >
> >
> >  On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Frans Thamura<frans at meruvian.org>  wrote:
> >  >  i want to bring FOSS4G to bigger one, all related to GIS.. but based on Open.
> >
> >  I definitely second this.
> >  Without this concept, we would be isolated ourself from whole geospatial ocean.
> >
> >
> >  thx toru-san ..
> >
> >  that will be honour for me to create FOSS4G Indonesia, i believe can start
> >  next year.. :)
> >
> >  this is bigger scope and better value to conduct it
> >
> >  but i still get unanswer question regarding to FOSS4G.org, why tokyo and osaka
> >  &  korea are not in the website.
> >
> >  which venka said that open to anyone to create local event using FOSS4G name.
> >
> >  I think that will be cool, if here we can have subdomain, like jp.foss4g.org
> >  <http://jp.foss4g.org>  or id.foss4g.org<http://id.foss4g.org>  (indonesia)
> >
> >  so all consolidated there..
> >
> >  any idea for this request
> >
> >  and i see also foss4g.org<http://foss4g.org>  main website need touch to make
> >  it better, to bring wave to the world.
> >
> >  any idea all?
> >
> >  F
> >
> >
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