[Ica-osgeo-labs] [Board] Open call for volunteers to help with building and hosting GeoforAll website in OSGeo infrastructure
Cameron Shorter
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Fri May 22 13:58:04 PDT 2015
+1 to Maxi's sentiments. Having multiple email lists/web pages which
cover the same community merely confuses new users trying to engage with
the community.
Warm regards, Cameron
On 22/05/2015 11:37 am, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
>
> Hello,
> This is my personal view that do not reflect the opinion of the board,
> but only of a single member.
>
> If Geo4All is an extension of the edu committee aiming to be
> cross-organization, I would expect the edu-com to formerly represent
> osgeo with respect to Ica and ISPRS and this is not the case. Since
> there is no interactions I cannot see the complimentary but only
> overlaps.
>
> Personally, I feel Geo4All has replaced the edu-com. Last email in the
> edu-com list seems to be dated December 2014, while ICA-OSGeo-ISPRS
> list is active.
> Members are almost the same, so I feel there is no time and energy to
> support both.
>
> Education is one of the key missions of osgeo in my opinion and
> spreading energies doesn’t make too much sense to me.
>
> My 2 cents
>
> Maxi
>
> Il 21-mag-2015 05:11, "Charles Schweik" <cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>> ha scritto:
>
> The below view makes sense to me.
>
> I'm cc'ing the OSGeo Board list so they can see your thoughts
> here, Suchith.
>
> Charlie
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Suchith Anand
> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> Hi Charlie,
>
> My suggestion is to have a link the GeoforAll website from
> OSGeo Education or ideally directly from OSGeo homepage. It is
> important to keep both OSGeo Education Committee and GeoforAll
> as they are complimentary. The whole idea of GeoforAll was to
> make this a wider geocommunity initiative (hence we have
> OSGeo, ICA and ISPRS Presidents as cochairs in our Advisory
> Board along with GeoforAll community nominated members
> http://www.geoforall.org/advisory_board/
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Suchith
> ________________________________________
> From: Charles Schweik [cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>]
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:43 AM
> To: Phillip Davis
> Cc: Suchith Anand; Steven Feldman; discuss at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org>;
> ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open call for volunteers to help
> with building and hosting GeoforAll website in OSGeo
> infrastructure
>
> Hi,
>
> This probably relates directly to my last post to the OSGeo
> Board and the distinction between OSGeo Education Committee
> and GeoForAll.
>
> I think we can, and probably should, combine them. If others
> agree, this would mean building from the OSGeo Education page
> [1]. I have the authority to update that page and need to
> because the ELOgeo link is not functioning on it and some
> other updating is needed.
>
> My problem here is time... I'm trying to focus my attention on
> a GeoForAll grant proposal right now! If someone can come up
> with revised content for those pages (or we replace with a
> GeoForAll link)...
>
> But I think we should see what the board thinks about whether
> the Education group and GeoForAll should be combined or separated?
>
> Or what do others think of this question? (sorry -- I forsee a
> bunch of threads on this coming in our in-boxes!)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Charlie
>
> [1] http://www.osgeo.org/education
>
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Phillip Davis
> <pdavis at delmar.edu
> <mailto:pdavis at delmar.edu><mailto:pdavis at delmar.edu
> <mailto:pdavis at delmar.edu>>> wrote:
> Suchith you can count on my limited talents to contribute to
> this worthy and necessary cause.
>
> Phillip Davis
> ________________________________________
> From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
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> <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>>] On Behalf Of
> Suchith Anand [Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>]
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:31 AM
> To: Steven Feldman; discuss at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org>>;
> ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
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> Subject: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open call for volunteers to help
> with building and hosting GeoforAll website in OSGeo
> infrastructure
>
> Colleagues,
>
> I would like to call upon all of you , if you can help
> volunteer to build a website for "Geo for All"
> http://www.geoforall.org/ in OSGeo infrastructure
>
> Key advantages:
>
> 1. We can ensure long term hosting and development as the
> initiative grows
>
> 2. We will be able to provide the whole $5k of our budget for
> student travel awards for FOSS4G- Seoul 2015
>
> I am sure our University of Southampton colleagues will be
> happy to work with any interested volunteers to move the
> website from the current hosts (University of Southampton) to
> OSGeo infrastructure.
>
> It will be great if we can have many volunteers so we can
> spread the efforts. I am willing to volunteer my time and
> efforts for provide content etc for this. Could you please let
> us all know if you are wlling to help by 30th May 2015, so we
> can plan ideas. Thanks.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Suchith
>
>
> ________________________________________
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> <mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>>] On Behalf Of Steven
> Feldman [shfeldman at gmail.com
> <mailto:shfeldman at gmail.com><mailto:shfeldman at gmail.com
> <mailto:shfeldman at gmail.com>>]
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:11 AM
> To: Suchith Anand; OSGeo-Board
> Subject: Re: [Board] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Reminder of meeting tomorrow
>
> Suchith, Board
>
> We should not be diverting money from the student travel
> budget to build a web site for Geo4All. Either use the OSGeo
> infrastructure or get volunteers to spin something up, with
> all of the universities involved there must be some people
> with the necessary skills who can do this, we should not be
> paying Southampton to do it
>
> steven
>
> From: Suchith Anand <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>><mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>>>
> Subject: Re: [Board] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Reminder of meeting tomorrow
> Date: 21 May 2015 01:01:15 BST
> To: Massimiliano Cannata <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
> <mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch><mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
> <mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>><mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
> <mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch><mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
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>
>
> Hi Massimiliano,
>
> Thank you for your queries.
>
> Yes, GeoforAll is 100 percent an OSGeo Education initiative
> (but supported by others like ICA, ISPRS through MoUs and we
> hope more like minded organisations who have interest in
> enabling Geospatial education and opportunities for all join
> us in the future).
>
> Regarding your questions:
>
> - Does a budget for Geo4All exists?
>
> Yes, the only budget we have is the $5k allocation for
> ICA/OSGeo Labs Student Travel in the OSGeo budget last year
> and this year. Last year budget [1] if i remember correctly we
> did not use it .
> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2014
>
>
> - ISPRS, ICA and OSGeo how they support the initiative, apart
> from having signed the MoU?
>
> For example in addition to the amazing support that both ICA
> and ISPRS has given which helped us expand to many
> universities globally , they have been contributing to student
> awards etc. For example for the Europa World Wind challenge
> 2015, both ICA and ISPRS are contributing student prizes
> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2015-May/001531.html
> I remember ICA gave student awards last year also for Europa
> challenge.
>
> - Why Geo4All need a website hosted in Nottingham and is not
> using the OSGeo infrastructure, like the OSGeo committees
> (incubation, marketing, etc.)?
>
> First of all, it is NOT hosted in Nottingham, it is developed
> and hosted by the University of Southampton. We had long , big
> discussions in Geofor all maillists to see who can help us
> with the website development and hosting . In fact, our first
> offer came from colleagues in Mexico but unfortunately even
> after nearly 1 year delay nothing happened and thankfully that
> time University of Southampton colleagues stepped in and
> volunteered to develop a website for us free and i am very
> grateful for that.
>
> If OSGeo intrstructure can be provided and we can get
> volunteers for developing and maintaining our website , we
> will be very happy. The website is really key for us and we
> need to make sure it is supported long term. For example, the
> open educational repository that we at University of
> Nottingham developed called ELOGeo, i wanted to transfer to
> OSGeo infrastructure when the project funding ended and i did
> send many emails but nothing happened. We do not want the same
> thing to happen to our website as we spend huge amounts of
> time and effort reaching this stage and hence we request
> support for the website developments . As you can see from
> the links in my email there has been lot of discussions from
> the community on this and supporting our website developments
> is the top priority.
>
> - How Geo4All differentiates from the educational committee?
> Shall we consider that committee dead and replaced by Geo4All?
>
> GeoforAll is a key element of OSGeo Education initiative not
> replacing the educational committee . The biggest advantage of
> having GeoforAll initiative is that we have made OSGeo
> Education into a wider geocommunity initiative ( not just
> OSGeo but much wider geocommunity inititative in collaboration
> with other like minded organisations) and we need to take
> actions to expand this.
>
> Please let me know if there are any other queries. Thanks.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Suchith
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