[Ica-osgeo-labs] Certification

Franz-Josef Behr franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de
Tue Oct 20 04:53:54 PDT 2015 

I was not aware of this initiative (except something in Germany called 
ECDL Computer Driving License").

Thank you for this pointer.

Regards - Franz-Josef

Am 20.10.2015 um 13:39 schrieb Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska:
> Hi Franz-Josef,
>
> So it seems that your idea is similar to the one developed by AICA 
> which established ECDL GIS exams 
> (http://www.ecdl.org/programmes/index.jsp?p=771&n=772), isn't it? 
> However, ECDL GIS is not a worldwide initiative. It exists in only few 
> countries in Europe (for example in Poland). So that's the biggest 
> difference :-)
>
> Regard,
> Ela
>
> **
>
> W dniu 2015-10-20 o 13:23, Franz-Josef Behr pisze:
>> Dear Elżbieta,
>>
>> I try to answer your question:
>>
>> 1. The goal is to create a portfolio of certifications related to the 
>> usage and implementation of Geo-spatial Open Source solutions (as we 
>> discussed in Como). So far we take the following certifications into 
>> approach (with 2 - 3 sub-categories):
>>
>>  1. Positioning and data acquisition
>>  2. Analysis and Modeling
>>  3. Software, Application and Development
>>
>>
>> Hence it is geared to "some broader knowledge & skills related to 
>> implementation of GI tools and spatial dat". As you can see it's not 
>> product-oriented but Tanzeel developed suggestions for the usage of 
>> tools from the OSGeo Projects [1]
>>
>> 2. I think that QGIS certification is product specific and hence 
>> complimentary
>>
>> Regards - Franz-Josef
>>
>> [1] http://www.osgeo.org/
>>
>> Am 20.10.2015 um 12:14 schrieb Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska:
>>> Dear Franz-Josef, Tanzeel,
>>>
>>> Your conversation with Suchith it's quite similar to the one we did 
>>> in Nodebo during the 1st QGIS Conference (then it was obviously 
>>> related to QGIS only).
>>>
>>> I have two general questions...
>>> No. 1 What does it mean "FOSS4G/OsGeo certification"? What kind of 
>>> competences should be covered by this certification - use of 
>>> specific soft only (which one) or some broader knowledge & skills 
>>> related to implementation of GI tools and spatial data?
>>> No. 2 How is your idea related to QGIS certification (mentioned in 
>>> the email)?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ela
>>>
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>>> W dniu 2015-10-20 o 11:45, Franz-Josef Behr pisze:
>>>> Dear Suchith,
>>>>
>>>> thank you for your message and concerns. I'd like to bring in some 
>>>> clarification.
>>>>
>>>>  1. Basically certification for FOSS should be based on the
>>>>     community for the community.
>>>>  2. Accreditation must be given by an acknowledged organisation
>>>>     like OSGeo, as you mentioned, and perhaps other communities
>>>>     (i.e. QGIS association [1]). This should be the "umbrella".
>>>>  3. Examinations should be endorsed by acknowledged Universities
>>>>     (i.e. Geo4All members). Here I am looking for supporters.
>>>>  4. Education is provided by certified trainers (still further work
>>>>     needed)
>>>>  5. Organisational work and management has to be done by an agency.
>>>>     This could be an opportunity for Tanzeel.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion FOSS4G/OSGeo certifications can be beneficial for all 
>>>> participants:
>>>>
>>>>   * for the community
>>>>   * for the further dissemination of open tools, data, and standards
>>>>   * for the trainees
>>>>   * for the trainers
>>>>   * for the companies looking for employees
>>>>   * for the organising agency
>>>>   * for Universities (offering education).
>>>>
>>>> Similar to [1] certification should have either a fixed, moderate 
>>>> cost, or a cost relative to the  GDP/mean salary of the country of 
>>>> origin of the trainee
>>>>
>>>> Suchith and colleagues, I'd really appreciate your support and your 
>>>> ideas.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Franz-Josef
>>>> [1] http://hub.qgis.org/wiki/quantum-gis/Certification
>>>>
>>>> Am 19.10.2015 um 15:42 schrieb Suchith Anand:
>>>>> Dear Tanzeel,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for the email and more information. The idea of open 
>>>>> source certification model based on geospatial technology 
>>>>> competency model is good BUT i do have concerns  on your  aim to 
>>>>> commercialise this certification under the umberella of  a private 
>>>>> company.  OSGeo Board should be the one who should be able to take 
>>>>> the decision on certification for OSGeo software training.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was not aware of your discussions with Jeff and others on this 
>>>>> that you mention in your mail . I am ccing this to our education 
>>>>> colleagues, so they can give an informed answer and suggestions to 
>>>>> this. I suggest that you email the OSGeo Board with all details, 
>>>>> so that they will be able to give you suggestions on the best way 
>>>>> for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* tanzeel rehman [tanzeelrehman130 at hotmail.com]
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2015 2:20 PM
>>>>> *To:* suchith.anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] STDF Grant for Leaders in 
>>>>> Innovation Fellowships (LIF) UK-Egypt Newton-Mosharafa Program
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Suchith
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for concerns .yes it is my master thesis and I develop an 
>>>>> open source certification model based on geospatial technology 
>>>>> competency model. I preseneted this topic in FOSS4g Como pre 
>>>>> conference and it was highly appriciated even some of guys were 
>>>>> really intrested. We had a meeting also for accereditation and 
>>>>> approval for this model and jeff suggested that it should be 
>>>>> project based certifocation. Now a days me in spokane for gis pro 
>>>>> confernece because i want to commercialise this certification 
>>>>> under the umberella of my new born company spatial junction
>>>>> And my second supervisor phillip davis  appriciated alot.
>>>>> I need support and suggesstions from all of you to uplift the 
>>>>> OSgeo model
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>> To: tanzeelrehman130 at hotmail.com
>>>>> CC: ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>> Subject: RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] STDF Grant for Leaders in Innovation 
>>>>> Fellowships (LIF) UK-Egypt Newton-Mosharafa Program
>>>>> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:45:14 +0000
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tanzeel,
>>>>>
>>>>> Apologies i could not understand the background discussion on the 
>>>>> topic on certification. From Frans-Josef email some time back i 
>>>>> understand this is something related to your Masters Thesis. Is 
>>>>> this correct? Did you discuss this with the OSGeo Board?  If it is 
>>>>> related to OSGeo certification then you should get approval from 
>>>>> the OSGeo Board first.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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