[Incubator] gvSIG project graduation (Update)

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Tue Oct 20 12:07:53 PDT 2015 

Hi Alvaro,
I agree that it would be great to announce gvSIG's graduation from OSGeo 
incubation at the gvSIG conference (on 4 Dec?), and I think it is also 
achievable, but require a quick turn around. I'd like to help you with 
that from the OSGeo Incubation Committee side of things.

With regards to the question of quality of documentation of decision 
making processes, I do think this is important from an incubation 
perspective, and is related to having "institutionalized processes".

Refer to:
http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html

A project should have institutionalized the processes in this list or 
provide justification why the process is not used.
...

Institutionalized Process
    A documented process which which addresses a need and is actively in
    use. It typically takes months before a process becomes
    institutionalized.
    /A more detailed definition of institutionalization is found in
    theCapability Maturity Model (CMMI)
    <http://www.sei.cmu.edu/library/abstracts/reports/02tr012.cfm>/
Open Source License

Warm regards, Cameron

On 19/10/2015 10:17 pm, Alvaro Anguix wrote:
> Hi Cameron,
>
> About the documentation in Spanish/English, we are finishing the last 
> translations of the user and developer documentation, and we will have 
> the 100% of the gvSIG documentation in Spanish and English (and in 
> Portuguese too). We also are finishing the migration of the old 
> infrastructure (docs.gvsig.org) to the new one. In any case we take 
> all the suggestions and improvements into account, that we will tackle 
> as soon as possible.
>
> Anyway, the doubt that we have is if these suggestions are 
> requirements for the incubation. We understand that they aren't 
> requirements for the graduation, but we would like to confirm it. 
> Mainly because the 11th International gvSIG Conference will be held 
> soon, and we would like to announce the graduation previously.
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Best regards,
> Alvaro
>
>
> El 16/10/15 a las 22:10, Cameron Shorter escribió:
>> Hi Alvaro,
>> Sorry for the slow response.
>>
>> Thanks for your updated principles. I've just reviewed and here is my 
>> feedback:
>>
>> I think that you have captured the process of making technical 
>> decisions, which is good. However:
>>
>> * The documentation is in a wiki [1], and not presented in the same 
>> prominence as the rest of the gvsig documentation [2]. I'd suggest 
>> that your processes should be moved out of the wiki, and into the 
>> same doc system as the rest of the docs, probably at: 
>> http://docs.gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/docs/<something>
>> You might want to include the processes as another chapter in the 
>> existing Developers Guide.
>> A good example you could follow is the GeoServer docs page [3] which 
>> includes "Policies and Procedures".
>>
>> * The current text reads a bit like a news article, written from an 
>> outsider's point of view, describing how you have noticed that 
>> decisions are made. What would be better is writing an authoritative 
>> process which gvSig team members sometimes quote and refer to when 
>> making decisions. A news article becomes dated, a documented process 
>> should be useful for the community, and will get updated over time.
>>
>> * The text looks like it has been written by one person, and hasn't 
>> yet been reviewed by other core gvSig members. I'd suggest that you'd 
>> likely get good feedback from your internal gvSig community if you 
>> were to ask:
>> "Does this text accurately represent how we should make decisions in 
>> the future? Are we as a community prepared to use this documented 
>> process as a guide for our future decisions?"
>>
>> * I notice that much of the gvSig documentation is written in 
>> Spanish. I'm not sure, but it is possible you would get better 
>> feedback from your community if this document was written first in 
>> Spanish, and if desired, later translated to English.
>>
>> Sorry again for the delayed response, and also for giving you more 
>> homework. I do encourage you to keep going because I think it would 
>> be valuable for the gvsig community.
>>
>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>
>> [1] https://redmine.gvsig.net/redmine/projects/gvsig-desktop/wiki/Wiki
>> [2] http://docs.gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/docs/
>> [3] http://docs.geoserver.org/
>>
>>
>> On 8/10/2015 7:19 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
>>> Thanks Alvaro! Recovering from foss4g on this end, thanks for 
>>> updating the wiki. I believe we are getting down to the end here, 
>>> thanks for the clarifications.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>> On 1 October 2015 at 05:37, Alvaro Anguix <aanguix at gvsig.com 
>>> <mailto:aanguix at gvsig.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hello,
>>>
>>>     Apologies for the delay, but I've been in 2nd gvSIG Conference
>>>     in Peru
>>>     and I couldn't update the checklist information before.
>>>     Now it's updated:
>>>     http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GvSIG_Incubation_Checklist
>>>
>>>     The principal link about technical decisions and gvSIG
>>>     organization is this:
>>>     https://redmine.gvsig.net/redmine/projects/gvsig-desktop/wiki/Wiki
>>>
>>>     Best Regards,
>>>     Alvaro
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>> -- 
>> Cameron Shorter,
>> Software and Data Solutions Manager
>> LISAsoft
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>>
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>

-- 
Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

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