[Live-demo] ORFEO Toolbox in OSGeoLive?

Angelos Tzotsos gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com
Thu Jan 20 14:33:15 EST 2011


Hi Manuel.

The files are committed in svn now.

Best regards,
Angelos

On 01/20/2011 06:00 PM, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wrote the Overview and QuickStart texts for the OTB project in the 
> frame of the next release of OSGeo live.
>
> I don't know if I've got access to the SVN repository to push the 
> file  (my OSGeo login is  'manuelgrizonnet').
>
> However, you can find the first version of the documentation with also 
> related logo/images here : 
> http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/packages/svn_osgeolive_backup.tgz
>
> Do not hesitate if I made mistakes.
>
> Regards,
>
> Manuel
>
>
> 2011/1/14 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at lisasoft.com 
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at lisasoft.com>>
>
>     Thanks Manuel,
>     I've change the name of the project in our spreadsheet to "otb".
>
>     This name, "otb" will be the acronym that you should use for your
>     install script and documentation, and our status spreadsheets. We
>     use a bit of excel magic to work out status of docs and
>     translations based upon this name.
>
>
>
>     On 14/01/11 20:04, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
>>     Hi Cameron,
>>
>>     I addes an entry in the #Status document about orfeo toolbox.
>>
>>     The install script for OTB  will be very simple I think :
>>
>>     /sudo aptitude install add-apt-repository
>>     sudo add-apt-repository ppa:otb/orfeotoolbox-stable/
>>     /sudo aptitude update /
>>     /sudo aptitude install otb otbapp monteverdi/
>>     /
>>     /
>>     I'll send a script for orfeo based on the mapserver script soon.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     Manuel
>>
>>     2011/1/12 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>
>>
>>         Thank you Manual for these clarifications.
>>
>>         I'm heartened by all your answers, and I'm +1 for including
>>         OTB on OSGeo-Live.
>>         Assuming that there are no other questions or objections from
>>         our community, I'd encourage you to start packaging OTB as per:
>>         http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project
>>
>>         If you wish to make the next release, can you please aim to
>>         have install script and Overview and Quickstart text complete
>>         by 31 January.
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 13/01/2011 4:41 AM, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
>>>         Hi all,
>>>
>>>         I answer below to questions about OTB before moving forward:
>>>
>>>         1. OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people can
>>>         use rather
>>>         than libraries that are included into other applications.
>>>         Does ORFEO
>>>         Toolbox have a user interface (possibly command line
>>>         interface) that a
>>>         user can interact with and try out ORFEO Toolbox?
>>>
>>>         ->Yes the software Monteverdi based on OTB provide a user
>>>         interface and an architecture which allows building
>>>         processing chains by selecting modules from a set of menus.
>>>         It supports raster and vector dataThe architecture takes
>>>         advantage of the streaming and multi-threading capabilities
>>>         of the OTB pipeline. It also uses cool features as
>>>         processing on demand and automagic file format I/O. The
>>>         application is called Monteverdi, since this is the name of
>>>         the Orfeo composer
>>>         <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Monteverdi>.  The
>>>         application is also packaged on Ubuntu, you can find more
>>>         informations here :
>>>         http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/monteverdi.html
>>>         Moreover the otb-app package provides OTB processing chain
>>>         (command line interface) which are also accessible through
>>>         user interface (standalone qt application or qgis plugins)
>>>
>>>         2. OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained.
>>>         Can ORFEO Toolbox run in 512 Meg or RAM?
>>>
>>>         ->Yes, we already provide in the past Live OTB which works
>>>         on this type of platforms. The application monteverdi was
>>>         developped in the frame of capacity building activities and
>>>         it works on PC with memory and disk constrained (512 Mo of
>>>         RAM is enough to run the application and do basic processing).
>>>
>>>         How much disk space will be required to install ORFEO
>>>         Toolbox and a
>>>         suitable example application.
>>>
>>>         -> otb package 10 Mo, monteverdi package 10 Mo, otb-app 15 Mo
>>>
>>>         What datasets would be required for a demonstration? Can you
>>>         make use of
>>>         the naturalearth dataset already installed, or would you
>>>         need something
>>>         else?
>>>         http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets
>>>
>>>         -> I do not know this dataset, I think that we can use this
>>>         dataset. We provide also on our repository extract of remote
>>>         sensing data which are used as examples in the software
>>>         guide and in the OTB tutorial.
>>>         http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-Data/
>>>         Our documentation (description of algorithms, input images,
>>>         examples and results) are automatically generated each time
>>>         when we update the software guide to ensure that results
>>>         which appear in the documentation are results provided by
>>>         the library.
>>>         We can pointed out interesting "Toy example" if you want
>>>         which will give an overview of OTB functionnalities on the
>>>         Live DVD?
>>>
>>>         3. You mention that ORFEO is in OSGeo incubation. I can't
>>>         see ORFEO
>>>         listed athttp://osgeo.org. Have you started incubation, or
>>>         are you on
>>>         the waiting list to start incubation?
>>>
>>>         -> Sorry, I only open a ticket on the OSGeo website to start
>>>         the incubation process for now...
>>>
>>>         4. Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. Do you
>>>         have a bug
>>>         free, stable release, which has been rolled out to
>>>         production in a
>>>         number of locations?
>>>
>>>         -> The last OTB release 3.8.0 and monteverdi 1.6.0 are the
>>>         latest stable release. OTB validation is mainly driven by a
>>>         platform of automatic tests (based on cmake, ctest and
>>>         cdash). The library is continuously and intensively tests on
>>>         numerous platforms. There are more than 1500 tests currently
>>>         in the library...
>>>         http://dash.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php?project=OTB
>>>
>>>         5. I notice the CeCILL licence you use is not listed on OSI
>>>         list of
>>>         licences. Has license been discussed and resolved on the
>>>         OSGeo-Incubation list?
>>>
>>>         -> I am not aware of any discussions about the licence,
>>>         Cecill is a free software license (adapted to french legal
>>>         matter) compatible with GPL :
>>>         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CeCILL
>>>
>>>         6. Do you have a person (maybe yourself?) prepared to
>>>         volunteer to be
>>>         the OSGeo-Live representative, who will take responsibility
>>>         for liaising
>>>         between the project and OSGeo-Live and make sure that
>>>         scripts and
>>>         documentation are updated for each release.
>>>
>>>         -> No problem for liaising between OSGeo and OTB. There is
>>>         also an OTB packages team on launchpad with contacts :
>>>         https://launchpad.net/~otb <https://launchpad.net/%7Eotb>
>>>
>>>         Regards,
>>>
>>>         Manuel
>>>
>>>         2011/1/11 Manuel Grizonnet <manuel.grizonnet at gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:manuel.grizonnet at gmail.com>>
>>>
>>>             Hi Johan,
>>>
>>>             I think that's some words in your answers are missing...
>>>             "it is already packaged and...???"
>>>
>>>             2011/1/11 Johan Van de Wauw <johan.vandewauw at gmail.com
>>>             <mailto:johan.vandewauw at gmail.com>>
>>>
>>>                 Since
>>>
>>>
>>>                 On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Manuel Grizonnet
>>>                 <manuel.grizonnet at gmail.com
>>>                 <mailto:manuel.grizonnet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                     The toolbox (and also related projects) are also
>>>                     provided as binary packages for Windows, Mac and
>>>                     recently also on Linux Platforms. An OTB
>>>                     repository is available on launchpad.net
>>>                     <http://launchpad.net> for Ubuntu platforms
>>>                     (9.10,10.4,10.10) and also for OpenSuse platforms.
>>>
>>>                 it is already packaged and
>>>
>>>                     OTB is under incubation for OSGeo Project.
>>>
>>>                 I think it would be a very good idea to include OTB
>>>                 on the live disk.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             -- 
>>>             Manuel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         -- 
>>>         Manuel
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>         -- 
>>         Cameron Shorter
>>         Geospatial Solutions Manager
>>         Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>>         Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>
>>         Think Globally, Fix Locally
>>         Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Manuel
>
>
>     -- 
>     Cameron Shorter
>     Geospatial Director
>     Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>     Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>
>     Think Globally, Fix Locally
>     Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
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>
>
>
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> Manuel
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Angelos Tzotsos
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