[Live-demo] ORFEO Toolbox in OSGeoLive?

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Thu Jan 20 23:04:54 EST 2011


Hi Manuel,
I understand that Alex has set you up with svn access.
Could you please add yourself to the OSGeo-Live contributors list so 
that we can credit you appropriately, and also so that you can check 
your subversion access works.

Details here:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Subversion

On 21/01/11 06:33, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
> Hi Manuel.
>
> The files are committed in svn now.
>
> Best regards,
> Angelos
>
> On 01/20/2011 06:00 PM, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wrote the Overview and QuickStart texts for the OTB project in the 
>> frame of the next release of OSGeo live.
>>
>> I don't know if I've got access to the SVN repository to push the 
>> file  (my OSGeo login is  'manuelgrizonnet').
>>
>> However, you can find the first version of the documentation with 
>> also related logo/images here : 
>> http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/packages/svn_osgeolive_backup.tgz
>>
>> Do not hesitate if I made mistakes.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Manuel
>>
>>
>> 2011/1/14 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at lisasoft.com 
>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at lisasoft.com>>
>>
>>     Thanks Manuel,
>>     I've change the name of the project in our spreadsheet to "otb".
>>
>>     This name, "otb" will be the acronym that you should use for your
>>     install script and documentation, and our status spreadsheets. We
>>     use a bit of excel magic to work out status of docs and
>>     translations based upon this name.
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 14/01/11 20:04, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
>>>     Hi Cameron,
>>>
>>>     I addes an entry in the #Status document about orfeo toolbox.
>>>
>>>     The install script for OTB  will be very simple I think :
>>>
>>>     /sudo aptitude install add-apt-repository
>>>     sudo add-apt-repository ppa:otb/orfeotoolbox-stable/
>>>     /sudo aptitude update /
>>>     /sudo aptitude install otb otbapp monteverdi/
>>>     /
>>>     /
>>>     I'll send a script for orfeo based on the mapserver script soon.
>>>
>>>     Regards,
>>>
>>>     Manuel
>>>
>>>     2011/1/12 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>>>     <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>
>>>
>>>         Thank you Manual for these clarifications.
>>>
>>>         I'm heartened by all your answers, and I'm +1 for including
>>>         OTB on OSGeo-Live.
>>>         Assuming that there are no other questions or objections
>>>         from our community, I'd encourage you to start packaging OTB
>>>         as per:
>>>         http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project
>>>
>>>         If you wish to make the next release, can you please aim to
>>>         have install script and Overview and Quickstart text
>>>         complete by 31 January.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 13/01/2011 4:41 AM, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
>>>>         Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>         I answer below to questions about OTB before moving forward:
>>>>
>>>>         1. OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people can
>>>>         use rather
>>>>         than libraries that are included into other applications.
>>>>         Does ORFEO
>>>>         Toolbox have a user interface (possibly command line
>>>>         interface) that a
>>>>         user can interact with and try out ORFEO Toolbox?
>>>>
>>>>         ->Yes the software Monteverdi based on OTB provide a user
>>>>         interface and an architecture which allows building
>>>>         processing chains by selecting modules from a set of menus.
>>>>         It supports raster and vector dataThe architecture takes
>>>>         advantage of the streaming and multi-threading capabilities
>>>>         of the OTB pipeline. It also uses cool features as
>>>>         processing on demand and automagic file format I/O. The
>>>>         application is called Monteverdi, since this is the name of
>>>>         the Orfeo composer
>>>>         <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Monteverdi>.  The
>>>>         application is also packaged on Ubuntu, you can find more
>>>>         informations here :
>>>>         http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/monteverdi.html
>>>>         Moreover the otb-app package provides OTB processing chain
>>>>         (command line interface) which are also accessible through
>>>>         user interface (standalone qt application or qgis plugins)
>>>>
>>>>         2. OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained.
>>>>         Can ORFEO Toolbox run in 512 Meg or RAM?
>>>>
>>>>         ->Yes, we already provide in the past Live OTB which works
>>>>         on this type of platforms. The application monteverdi was
>>>>         developped in the frame of capacity building activities and
>>>>         it works on PC with memory and disk constrained (512 Mo of
>>>>         RAM is enough to run the application and do basic processing).
>>>>
>>>>         How much disk space will be required to install ORFEO
>>>>         Toolbox and a
>>>>         suitable example application.
>>>>
>>>>         -> otb package 10 Mo, monteverdi package 10 Mo, otb-app 15 Mo
>>>>
>>>>         What datasets would be required for a demonstration? Can
>>>>         you make use of
>>>>         the naturalearth dataset already installed, or would you
>>>>         need something
>>>>         else?
>>>>         http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets
>>>>
>>>>         -> I do not know this dataset, I think that we can use this
>>>>         dataset. We provide also on our repository extract of
>>>>         remote sensing data which are used as examples in the
>>>>         software guide and in the OTB tutorial.
>>>>         http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-Data/
>>>>         Our documentation (description of algorithms, input images,
>>>>         examples and results) are automatically generated each time
>>>>         when we update the software guide to ensure that results
>>>>         which appear in the documentation are results provided by
>>>>         the library.
>>>>         We can pointed out interesting "Toy example" if you want
>>>>         which will give an overview of OTB functionnalities on the
>>>>         Live DVD?
>>>>
>>>>         3. You mention that ORFEO is in OSGeo incubation. I can't
>>>>         see ORFEO
>>>>         listed athttp://osgeo.org. Have you started incubation, or
>>>>         are you on
>>>>         the waiting list to start incubation?
>>>>
>>>>         -> Sorry, I only open a ticket on the OSGeo website to
>>>>         start the incubation process for now...
>>>>
>>>>         4. Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. Do you
>>>>         have a bug
>>>>         free, stable release, which has been rolled out to
>>>>         production in a
>>>>         number of locations?
>>>>
>>>>         -> The last OTB release 3.8.0 and monteverdi 1.6.0 are the
>>>>         latest stable release. OTB validation is mainly driven by a
>>>>         platform of automatic tests (based on cmake, ctest and
>>>>         cdash). The library is continuously and intensively tests
>>>>         on numerous platforms. There are more than 1500 tests
>>>>         currently in the library...
>>>>         http://dash.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php?project=OTB
>>>>
>>>>         5. I notice the CeCILL licence you use is not listed on OSI
>>>>         list of
>>>>         licences. Has license been discussed and resolved on the
>>>>         OSGeo-Incubation list?
>>>>
>>>>         -> I am not aware of any discussions about the licence,
>>>>         Cecill is a free software license (adapted to french legal
>>>>         matter) compatible with GPL :
>>>>         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CeCILL
>>>>
>>>>         6. Do you have a person (maybe yourself?) prepared to
>>>>         volunteer to be
>>>>         the OSGeo-Live representative, who will take responsibility
>>>>         for liaising
>>>>         between the project and OSGeo-Live and make sure that
>>>>         scripts and
>>>>         documentation are updated for each release.
>>>>
>>>>         -> No problem for liaising between OSGeo and OTB. There is
>>>>         also an OTB packages team on launchpad with contacts :
>>>>         https://launchpad.net/~otb <https://launchpad.net/%7Eotb>
>>>>
>>>>         Regards,
>>>>
>>>>         Manuel
>>>>
>>>>         2011/1/11 Manuel Grizonnet <manuel.grizonnet at gmail.com
>>>>         <mailto:manuel.grizonnet at gmail.com>>
>>>>
>>>>             Hi Johan,
>>>>
>>>>             I think that's some words in your answers are
>>>>             missing... "it is already packaged and...???"
>>>>
>>>>             2011/1/11 Johan Van de Wauw <johan.vandewauw at gmail.com
>>>>             <mailto:johan.vandewauw at gmail.com>>
>>>>
>>>>                 Since
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Manuel Grizonnet
>>>>                 <manuel.grizonnet at gmail.com
>>>>                 <mailto:manuel.grizonnet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                     The toolbox (and also related projects) are
>>>>                     also provided as binary packages for Windows,
>>>>                     Mac and recently also on Linux Platforms. An
>>>>                     OTB repository is available on launchpad.net
>>>>                     <http://launchpad.net> for Ubuntu platforms
>>>>                     (9.10,10.4,10.10) and also for OpenSuse platforms.
>>>>
>>>>                 it is already packaged and
>>>>
>>>>                     OTB is under incubation for OSGeo Project.
>>>>
>>>>                 I think it would be a very good idea to include OTB
>>>>                 on the live disk.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             -- 
>>>>             Manuel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         -- 
>>>>         Manuel
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>         -- 
>>>         Cameron Shorter
>>>         Geospatial Solutions Manager
>>>         Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>>>         Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>>
>>>         Think Globally, Fix Locally
>>>         Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
>>>         http://www.lisasoft.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     -- 
>>>     Manuel
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Cameron Shorter
>>     Geospatial Director
>>     Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>>     Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>
>>     Think Globally, Fix Locally
>>     Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
>>     http://www.lisasoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Manuel
>>
>>
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>
> -- 
> Angelos Tzotsos
> Remote Sensing Laboratory
> National Technical University of Athens
> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos


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