MS Foundation web presence question

[Paul Spencer]

Tom,

I think we all will be evaluating the capabilities of MSE to  
determine what it can be used for.  Its certainly has some new  
features that mapserver users are not used to having, but it also has  
some limitations (for now).

One of the things it is not is light-weight.  I think it will work  
very in certain situations, and I think mapserver will work very well  
in others.

Cheers

Paul

On 29-Nov-05, at 9:39 AM, Kralidis,Tom [Burlington] wrote:

>
> Question: how will this affect good old CGI mapserv and OGC MapServer
> (those are the two major installs for my stakeholders)?
>
> ..Tom
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: UMN MapServer Users List
>> [mailto:MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Spencer
>> Sent: Tuesday, 29 November, 2005 09:36
>> To: MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] MS Foundation web presence  
>> question
>>
>>
>> Charlton,
>>
>> The MapServer Enterprise download is provided by Autodesk and was
>> previously known as Tux.  MSE comprises two parts:
>>
>> * MSE server - this is a long running server process.  There is one
>> *site* server and zero or more support servers.  The server stores
>> configuration files (in XML!!!) and has all the logic to turn
>> requests into maps etc.
>>
>> * MSE WebExtensions - this is the web part of the server and is
>> designed to be deployed in front of a corporate firewall etc.  It
>> exposes http access to the site server (and support servers) and has
>> a scripting interface in either PHP, Java or .NET ...
>>
>> MapServer Studio is a desktop app that provides a way to configure
>> the MSE server via the WebExtensions tier.  I believe the
>> plan is for
>> Autodesk to keep this as a proprietary/commercial product because it
>> embeds AutoCAD binaries that are not being considered for
>> open source
>> release.  It is also bound to Windows only.
>>
>> MapServer Studio will only work with MSE.
>>
>> I believe there is an intention to develop a web-based open source
>> tool with similar capabilities as Studio (or at least the
>> capabilities necessary to configure the server with data and style
>> it), and probably also some command line tools for loading data into
>> the server and possibly moving MAP files to/from the MSE environment
>> (they have a different set of features for styling/labeling that
>> could make this tricky, but it should be possible to have a
>> rudimentary import/export).
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 29-Nov-05, at 9:07 AM, Charlton Purvis wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, folks:
>>>
>>> I have been paying attention to the spirited dialog re. yesterday's
>>> announcement.  But I may have missed something along the way, and I
>>> have
>>> just taken my first look at the .org site.  If the Foundation is
>>> still in
>>> its early stages, who has been working to release what I see here?
>>> http://www.mapserverfoundation.org/mapserver_enterprise/
>>> download.html  And
>>> for how long?
>>>
>>> I'm still downloading the whopping 125MB demo from here
>>> http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?
>>> siteID=123112&id=6153839.  Long
>>> gone are small installs.  That site refers to that d/l as AutodeskR
>>> MapServer Studio - Preview, and it's terribly confusing how that
>>> relates to
>>> what we're calling Cheetah or Enterprise.  That is, if it is
>>> supposed to
>>> relate at all.
>>>
>>> And not to belabor the point, the .org website appears to leave
>>> little doubt
>>> that there are 2 separate beasts (Cheetah and Enterprise) that
>>> already have
>>> names.
>>>
>>> Charlton
>>
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