[Marketing] Re: Marketing Digest, Vol 16, Issue 14
daniele.ocu ocu
daniele.ocu at gmail.com
Tue Jan 20 00:53:30 EST 2009
Pedro,
The shirt look Awesome!!!! Love it!!!
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> 1. RE: A question to the marketing committee (Jason Birch)
> 2. web site refactoring [was: Marketing Digest, Vol 16, Issue
> 10] (Lorenzo Becchi)
> 3. Re: Re: Marketing Digest, Vol 16, Issue 10 (Frank Warmerdam)
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> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:40:49 -0800
> From: "Jason Birch" <Jason.Birch at nanaimo.ca>
> Subject: RE: [Marketing] A question to the marketing committee
> To: <marketing at lists.osgeo.org>
> Cc: Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses <vehrka at gmail.com>
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> That is a really cool shirt design, one that I'm sure lots of geo-geeks
> like me would want to buy :)
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> Jason
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> From: Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses
> Subject: [Marketing] A question to the marketing committee
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:38:44 +0100
> From: Lorenzo Becchi <lorenzo at ominiverdi.com>
> Subject: [Marketing] web site refactoring [was: Marketing Digest, Vol
> 16, Issue 10]
> Cc: marketing at lists.osgeo.org, Web committee discussions
> <webcom at lists.osgeo.org>
> Message-ID: <49746644.5020107 at ominiverdi.com>
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> Cameron Shorter wrote:
> > Daniele,
> > No need to be sorry. It is excellent to see people taking initiative.
> +1
>
> @Daniele: if you can please use a better subject than "Marketing
> Digest", we would appreciate.
>
> >
> > Re who is in responsible for what:
> >
> > The beauty of OSGeo is that anyone can join any committee, so it is
> > incredibly easy for us to restructure ourselves.
> >
> > The marketing committee have collectively noted that Websites are
> > important for marketing, and that $$ should be allocated to the
> > website from the marketing budget. Only $20K (plus I think webcom had
> > $10K already?) and that will not go far.
> >
> > I think that Webcom should continue to be responsible for the website,
> > and also responsible for spending the $20K budget. Any marketing
> > people who want to have a say can join the webcom email list. (I
> > suspect most of us are on the list already).
> >
>
> I think this is a great initiative but remembers me some projects for
> the development I've seen here and there travelling around.
> I guess that if you want to give $20K to webcom you should better ask
> them if they are interested in and what is their feeling about
> priorities (participative approach [1]).
> Chris has sent a good list of objections and I have some more that I've
> posted [2] before.
>
> regards
> lorenzo
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participation_(decision_making)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participation_%28decision_making%29>
> [2] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/webcom/2008-December/001937.html
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> > daniele.ocu ocu wrote:
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> I am veryveryvery sorry If I seemed too hasty in the words I chose in
> >> the prior email. Of course that if any actual action in the website
> >> is taken, it will be of common desire both of the Marketing
> >> committee, of the Webcom and of other who are interested.
> >>
> >> This is just the beginning, where *_gathering information_* is a
> >> crucial part.
> >>
> >> Getting _*your ideas*_ on what is good about the website and what
> >> might be object to change is an extremely important part of planning
> >> what can be done.
> >>
> >> This is JUST AN EFFORT to get the OSGeo Community to *_start
> >> discussing and thinking_* of ways to gather more users, contributers,
> >> volunteers and *sponsors* to this vibrant community.
> >>
> >> This is STILL Just a discussion, a place to set ideas.
> >>
> >> Daniele.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Christopher Schmidt
> >> <crschmidt at metacarta.com <mailto:crschmidt at metacarta.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 03:43:32PM +0900, daniele.ocu ocu wrote:
> >> > Dear Marketing committee,
> >> >
> >> > We have started working on the website redesign.
> >>
> >> Daniele,
> >>
> >> I'm concerned that this is being done without interaction with
> >> WebCom --
> >> or if this interaction is happening, I'm not aware of it.
> >>
> >> Currently, I've expressed some concerns about the current state
> >> of the
> >> OSGeo website, but I do not feel that there is sufficient
> >> agreement in
> >> what the website should *be* that we can discuss Content Design,
> >> Layout
> >> Design, etc.
> >>
> >> I have some strong ideas about what the OSGeo website should be --
> >> or at
> >> least, questions about what it should be that would need answering
> >> before any redesign was attempted.
> >>
> >> Additionally, I think that any website redesign effort can only be
> >> undertaken if a sufficiently motivated set of developers in the
> >> website
> >> technology are involved. I'm not convinced that that is currently
> >> the
> >> case; I don't know how much experience you have with the current
> >> website
> >> technology, but I didn't have the impression that you were
> >> comfortable
> >> implementing possible changes in this regard.
> >>
> >> At the moment, I would like to say that although Marketing can
> >> feel free
> >> to create an advisory suggestion to WebCom about suggestions for the
> >> website, I do ont feel that WebCom has suficient resources to
> >> implement
> >> any possible suggestions, and I would consider the feedback from
> >> Marketing -- except insofar as it relates directly towards marketing
> >> tasks like management of branding -- to be advisory only.
> >>
> >> Please take this into account in any decisions/investment placed
> >> in this
> >> direction.
> >>
> >> SOmetime in the near future, I will do my best to outline my
> >> hopes for
> >> the OSGeo website to the members of the community; I expect the end
> >> result will be a discussion (either on mailing lists or in a more
> >> interactive forum) about what the OSGeo website should be. When I do
> >> this, I will involve Marketing in that discussion as much as
> >> possible.
> >>
> >> I appreciate the effort you want to go through, but I just feel
> >> at the
> >> moment that it might be a wasted effort due to lack of general
> >> agreement
> >> on the tasks needed for the website; if this is the result of some
> >> larger discussion I'm missing, I apologize, and I look forward to
> >> resolving my confusion. I don't want to stop the Marketing committee
> >> from participating in website advisory positions, but I also don't
> >> want
> >> to see anyone put forth effort which may be wasted.
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> --
> >> Christopher Schmidt
> >> MetaCarta
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Researcher @ Osaka City University
> >> Graduate School for Creative Cities
> >> http://gisws.media.osaka-cu.ac.jp/gistrends
> >>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:49:11 -0500
> From: Frank Warmerdam <warmerdam at pobox.com>
> Subject: Re: [Marketing] Re: Marketing Digest, Vol 16, Issue 10
> To: Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> Cc: marketing at lists.osgeo.org, "daniele.ocu ocu"
> <daniele.ocu at gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <4974A0F7.2050505 at pobox.com>
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> Cameron Shorter wrote:
> > The marketing committee have collectively noted that Websites are
> > important for marketing, and that $$ should be allocated to the website
> > from the marketing budget. Only $20K (plus I think webcom had $10K
> > already?) and that will not go far.
>
> Cameron,
>
> I'd note that there is no $10K budget for webcom. There was an item in
> the 2008 budget but that lapsed at the end of year unused.
>
> Best regards,
> --
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