[Aust-NZ] Fwd: Where to now?

Tue Nov 24 03:43:05 PST 2009

Hey Guys

I am just catching up with my email, and noticed the incorporation idea in Victoria.

Can I ask the main reasons? The reason I ask, is that I am the president of OSDC (Open Source Developers Club) and we are there to help with that side of things. 

PHPMelb and Melbourne.pm have both now closed and become part of OSDC. Why - because we were only an incorporated association for a bank account and for protection of members (by being a not for profit association, you are protected privately from being sued, unless you do something illegal - but no insurance protects you there).

So for example, a OSGeo Australia or similar could be part of OSDC as an approved group, thus have access to funds raised during other events (like the currently running OSDC conference in Brisbane).

Sorry I have jumped in the middle here and didn't have time to go through all my mail, as I am at the conference :-)

Scott
P.S. I have started 3 associations in the last decade, so if we need one anyway, I can help.

On 24/11/2009, at 9:50 PM, bruce wrote:

> Hi Brent,
> 
> Yes, it is about time we got this sorted out... now that we have that minor distraction of FOSS4G out of the way.
> 
> 
> Several of us discussed Incorporation at our recent Melbourne get together.
> 
> Hamish Taylor has provided some very good resources for incorporated associations in Victoria (See attached).
> 
> There are a few checklists (via the urls) to fill in to help define the best structure.
> 
> 
> Does anyone want to have a go at filling them in?
> 
> 
> Once all of the planning and paperwork has been sorted out and agreed on. We will need to hold a 'Pre-Incorporation Meeting'. We will need to give at least 21 days notice for the meeting. It also appears that we will need at least 5 people at the meeting. see [1].
> 
> 
> The next time that we'll probably have a number of us together is at Spatial at Gov next year (around mid year I think).
> 
> 
> Alternatively we can arrange to have at least five people in Melbourne for the meeting which shouldn't be hard.
> 
> 
> Who wants to get involved in sorting this out?
> 
> 
> Bruce
> 
> [1] http://www.pilch.org.au/incorporatedassociation/    5. Hold a pre-incorporation meeting
> 
> <Fwd: Incorporated Associations.eml>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: aust-nz-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>>> [mailto:aust-nz-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of
>>> pcreso at pcreso.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2009 2:29 PM
>>> To: Aust-NZ at lists.osgeo.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] Fwd: Where to now?
>>> 
>>> Hmmm...
>>> 
>>> I'm not the quietest member here, but to kick this off, I'd
>>> like to see formal registration of the chapter as a legal
>>> entity move forward.
>>> 
>>> Normally as part of this process, the defining deed for any
>>> reistered non-profit organisation will require rules & info
>>> about intent/purpose, etc.
>>> 
>>> While in our case much of this can come from the OSGEO parent
>>> organisation, it is also where we add any stuff about our
>>> particular intents & purposes.
>>> 
>>> If we are going to collect comments on this, I think it would
>>> be useful to do so bearing in mind what information/forms etc
>>> are required for whatever registration we apply for.
>>> 
>>> Representing OSGEO at events is pretty simple, but it would
>>> be nice to be able to represent the Aust-NZ Chapter (as a
>>> registered organisation) at events such as SSSI, as we have
>>> discussed recently.
>>> 
>>> If we do want to enhance our local (Australasian & Pacific
>>> Island) presence, it will be easier if we have some actual
>>> legal status.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>>  Brent Wood
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Bruce Bannerman
>>> <bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> From: Bruce Bannerman <bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [Aust-NZ] Fwd: Where to now?
>>>> To: Aust-NZ at lists.osgeo.org
>>>> Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 3:47 PM
>>>> 
>>>> We have around 120 members on the list.
>>>> 
>>>> I've sent this around again, because I'd like to hear some thoughts
>>>> from some of our other list members who normally passively receive
>>>> email distributed to the list.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> OSGeo AustNZ is your community too.
>>>> 
>>>> What directions would you like to see OSGeo AustNZ go in?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Bruce
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message
>>>> ----------
>>>> From: Bruce Bannerman <bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com>
>>>> 
>>>> Date: Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM
>>>> Subject: Where to now?
>>>> To: Aust-NZ at lists.osgeo.org
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Now that FOSS4G-2009 is finished and has been well
>>> received, it may be
>>>> time to start thinking about which directions we want to take
>>>> OSGeo-AustNZ.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> There appears to be a definite desire for information and
>>> workshops on
>>>> OSGeo projects in our region.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps Shaun Kolomeitz and Simon Hope have hit on a good way of
>>>> building the Australian and New Zealand communities by
>>> targeting local
>>>> groups? However I feel we should keep the AustNZ focus to keep the
>>>> overall momentum going (as per Open Source Industry Australia).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Alternate between informal sessions at the pub and info sessions
>>>> hosted by kind benefactors?
>>>> 
>>>> Borrowing from a successful format that I saw in the early 1990's
>>>> (G.T.), for info sessions, it may be good to focus on demonstrating
>>>> solutions to problems and finishing with "oh and by the
>>> way, we used
>>>> these OSGeo projects to do this". This could be followed by
>>> dedicated
>>>> "under to hood" [1] sessions for more detail if required.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> For 2010, a few of us have volunteered to help Ben Searle with
>>>> Spatial at Gov. We will probably have an OSGeo presence and workshops
>>>> there.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Lets get some thoughts going...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On another note, at FOSS4G, Arnulf Christl suggested that
>>> we may wish
>>>> to consider running another regional FOSS4G event in two years time.
>>>> 
>>>> I canvased a few people at FOSS4G and believe that we'd get
>>> a few key
>>>> Developers / Vendors back here if we did.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I think that if we were to do this, running it in New Zealand this
>>>> time would be ideal.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there any interest in this? This could become a regular event if
>>>> there is sufficient interest.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Bruce
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [1] I hope you don't mind my using the term Ian and Ben J
>>>> 
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