[OpenLayers-Dev] bus number (regarding infrastructure)

[Erik Uzureau]

also, at this point, it's not certain at this point that my move next
week necessarily implies a closed door as far as MC infrastructure,
so in reality the bus number *might* not change.

i'm not 100% sure on that (need to talk to sysadmins) but just putting
that out there if it eases minds.

e

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 18:33, Tim Schaub <tschaub at opengeo.org> wrote:

> Hey-
>
> Christopher Schmidt wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 03:21:48PM -0700, Tim Schaub wrote:
> >> Hey-
> >>
> >> MetaCarta graciously hosts our project infrastructure.
> >>
> >> Chris handles all (or nearly all) admin work.  I assume this is all in
> >> his free time.
> >
> > The OpenLayers server maintenance -- that is, maintaining the website
> > itself -- is supported by MetaCarta, but almost all other work is done
> > in my 'free time'. (So, mostly right, but if the website dies, I get a
> > phone call, even if I am on vacation. :))
> >
> >> Erik has taken responsibility for accepting license agreements and trac
> >> account requests.  I assume he manually adds people to an htpasswd file
> >> when doing the latter.  I suggested the AccountManager plugin to remove
> >> the manual step - but I'm not sure exactly how permissions are handled
> >> (for sandbox or core contributions).
> >>
> >> With Erik's departure, we reduce our bus number by one - with respect to
> >> the number of people with access to our project infrastructure.
> >>
> >> I'd like to hear discussion again on the following:
> >> 1) Giving access to non-MetaCarta employees for the current servers.
> >
> > This one can't really happen with our current setup.
> >
> >> 2) Moving to OSGeo infrastructure.
> >
> > This is the one I'd prefer. I'm glad to do it if someone else volunteers
> > a weekend of time to help. It will probably require at least some prep
> > work, and an acceptance of the community of downtime during the
> > transition. (My biggest reason for not transitioning yet is becasue i
> > think there will be a period of hours/days/possibly a week during which
> > we work out kinks, and I get enough abuse as is on the project that I
> > don't want to invite more on my own.)
> >
> > If someone else is interested, the best thing to do is to:
> >  * Speak up here
>
> Great.  I'm interested in helping out.
>
> >  * Help concoct a plan
>
> I agree about waiting until after 2.8 for any downtime.  If we can do
> any work before, I'll be more available at the end of next week.
>
> I look forward to talking more detail later.
>
> Tim
>
> >  * Join the SAC committee list on the osgeo servers, and start
> >    discussing it
> >
> > Over the past year, I have worked out most of the technical kinks to the
> > OSGeo infrastructure with regard to OSGeo in prep for us moving thee, so
> > at this point, it's just accepting the downtime and moving forward.
> >
> > I would propose that we wait to have this downtime until *after* 2.8.
> > Currently, our milestone needs to have 4 tickets a day closed or moved
> > in order to get us to a release on time, and migrating to OSGeo takes
> > away valuable time towards that goal.
> >
> >
> >> I guess my motivation boils down to this: if Chris ever decides to take
> >> a real vacation, nobody can do squat to manage the infrastructure (for
> >> practical purposes).
> >
> > Agreed. This has been weighing on my mind, and motivated the change to
> > the account admin changes.
> >
> > Note that technically, John Frank also has access to the servers, and
> > the documentation for managing them is mostly in the wiki, but I agree
> > that this is only a last-defense; informative in case I *actually*
> > get hit by a bus before we move to OSGeo, but I completely
> > agree we should move to OSGeo long term.
> >
> > Regards,
>
>
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