[postgis-users] noding problem

Chris Hermansen chris.hermansen at timberline.ca
Tue Oct 23 14:30:43 PDT 2007

Hi Kevin;

Sorry to take so long to get back on this!

How "isolated" do you want it?  What I have right now is a three polygon
table that I wish to overlay on a 3378 polygon table.

Meantime, I'm working on making the problem smaller...

Kevin Neufeld wrote:
> Can you isolate the geometry that is causing the error?  If geos is
> broken, it would be nice to have a test case.
> IE. Try noding half the lines at a time, then try noding half of a
> half, etc...
> -- Kevin
> Chris Hermansen wrote:
>> Hi folks;
>> I posted something a few days back on a noding problem I'm having, and
>> received no answer.  At this point I have more details and I think there
>> is something seriously wrong.
>> This is Postgis 1.3.1 and GEOS 3.0.0rc4.
>> The Postgis Wiki has an example of putting two somewhat overlapping
>> polygon networks together:
>> http://www.postgis.org/support/wiki/index.php?ExamplesOverlayTables
>> Basically, two tables of polygons are converted into linestrings and put
>> in a third table.
>> Then, the table of linestrings is noded; in the Wiki, the code given is:
>> CREATE TEMP TABLE noded_lines AS
>>    SELECT St_Union(the_geom) AS the_geom
>>    FROM all_lines;
>> Right, my problem!  I have two tables with multi-polygons.  I convert
>> them to polygons.  I use isValid() on their geometries to make sure that
>> they are in good shape.
>> Then!  I run the "noding query" - which I might add takes a
>> loooooooooooooooong time - and in the end I see:
>> dustin=# create temp table step2 as
>> dustin-# select st_union(geom) as geom from step1;
>> NOTICE:  TopologyException: found non-noded intersection between
>> 1.40568e+06 507100, 1.40568e+06 507100 and 1.40568e+06 507100,
>> 1.40568e+06 507100 1.40568e+06 507100
>> ERROR:  GEOS union() threw an error!
>> OK, now to me this doesn't seem at all fair!  If the st_union() command
>> is supposed to node the linework then WHY is complaining about non-noded
>> intersections?
>> Thanks in advance for any light you can shed on this!
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