[Qgis-developer] Splash screen for 2.0

Nathan Woodrow madmanwoo at gmail.com
Mon Sep 2 06:39:28 PDT 2013 

I am quite happy with using the map we have.  In the past we have used an
array of different images so I think this is fine.

IMO we should stick to the design that Anita has done up as it looks really
modern and will good for the product.

- Nathan


On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Anita - thank you for working on the splash-screen.
>
> @Matthias and @Marco: you can blame me for suggesting the "modern"
> Swisstopo map rather than the Dufour or Siegfriedmap. I personally think
> we can be proud of the current Swisstopo map - and as Larry said -
> besides the cliff drawing I believe it can be made in QGIS.
>
> I believe the modern map looks better than the original Dufour map - or
> would you prefer to use theses older map designs when you go
> mountaineering? This is not about belittling the work of Dufour - he was
> great at his time and laid the foundation of todays modern Swisstopo
> maps. Another advantage of using the modern map is that the map actually
> shows the name "Dufourspitze", while the old Dufour map does not (he
> couldn't name the highest point of Switzerland after himself) - others
> did that for him later when he got famous.
>
> For some background on the modern map: the shaded relief was made
> manually with an airbrush and the cliff drawing was made manually years
> ago by scribing on coated glass. Both the shaded reliefs and the cliff
> drawing were scanned and are now updated in Photoshop whenever there are
> updates (e.g. at retreating glaciers or when rockfalls happen).
>
> All the other layers are made with GIS. It happens to be ESRI these days
> but it could be QGIS in coming years, esp. if we continue to improve our
> cartographic rules and toolboxes at the same rate we do today.
>
> Anyway - I asked for permission and as long as we give credits in the
> QGIS about screen (not on the splash screen) and do not surpass the size
> of 500'000 pixels we are good to go. BTW: even with the older maps we
> would have to cite the data source.
>
> If people still prefer the older maps, please make a variation of
> Anita's design by using the Dufour map - see
>
> http://map.geo.admin.ch/?selectedNode=LT1_1&Y=633234&X=87325.5&zoom=6&bgLayer=ch.swisstopo.pixelkarte-farbe&layers=ch.swisstopo.hiks-dufour&layers_opacity=1&layers_visibility=true&time_current=latest&lang=de
>
> We could than vote which map should be used as a background.
>
> Andreas
>
> Am 01.09.2013 21:35, schrieb Matthias Kuhn:
> > Hi,
> >
> > It probably seems strange to me (and Marco), as this is my everyday map
> > and I have a totally different association than QGIS to this.
> > But as there is not much response to this, I guess there are not many
> > concerns around.
> >
> > As a reminder concerning the swisstopo map, we are also not allowed to
> > use this at a resolution exceeding 500'000 pixels.
> > The picture with the Hotel Schwarzsee which Marco cited is also
> > available at a higher resolution (to some extent at the expense of some
> > blurryness) [1]
> >
> > Regards,
> > Matthias
> >
> > [1]
> >
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Monte_Rosa_and_Hotel_Schwarzsee%2C_Valais%2C_Alps_of%2C_Switzerland.jpg
> >
> > On Sam 31 Aug 2013 15:04:50 CEST, Anita Graser wrote:
> >> Hi Matthias,
> >>
> >> Thank your four raising these points.
> >>
> >> Am 31.08.2013, 13:04 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Kuhn <matthias.kuhn at gmx.ch>:
> >>> However, I'm still not really convinced of using a background of a
> >>> modern (admittedly visually appealing) map service which has no
> >>> relation to and is by no means produced with the help of QGIS.
> >>
> >> I understand your concern but I'm not sure how big an issue it would be.
> >> In my opinion, the design is very artistic and clearly not a result
> which
> >> could be achieved directly in a QGIS but which requires serious
> >> cartographic skill.
> >>
> >> As a reference, here is the design with the old black-and-white map
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/48244569@N02/9637382664/
> >>
> >>> I was looking for other
> >>> images, which are not maps, but nevertheless artistic work with spatial
> >>> nature and cannot be mistaken (at least I believe so) to be a result of
> >>> QGIS.
> >>> So here some pictures I found
> >>
> >> Sorry, but none of those are an option in my opinion. I think they look
> >> very dull and I would not like to look at them every day. On the
> >> technical
> >> side, they are of very low resolution and some blurry. I would like to
> >> see
> >> the splash screen design reflected on the new website as well, so the
> >> material should work at different resolutions.
> >>
> >> I'm open to try different background maps of the agreed region but they
> >> should be available in a reasonable resolution.
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >> Anita
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Monte_Rosa_and_Hotel_Schwarzsee,_Valais,_Alps_of,_Switzerland.jpg
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.festivaltour.de/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4817&d=1358685981
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.gemeinschaftskatalog.de/GK/stra/Bilder/435%20Nolde-Dufour.jpg
> >>>
> http://rlv.zcache.de/monte_rosa_lyskamm_mit_gorner_gletscher_wallis_postkarte-r81b50da849b8458b9a2aa7b91bd5120f_vgbaq_8byvr_512.jpg
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.historisches-alpenarchiv.org/data/bilder/web/143/00109153_w.jpg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure about the rights we have to get to use them, but they are
> >>> ancient, so I guess that should not be a problem?
> >>>
> >>> Matthias
> >>>
> >>> On Sam 31 Aug 2013 12:31:28 CEST, Anita Graser wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> It's time to get the splash ready. This thread seems to agree with the
> >>>> general direction of the drafts Nathan posted. I've therefore prepared
> >>>> three variants of the design:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/48244569@N02/9633228465/in/photostream/
> >>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/48244569@N02/9633228767/in/photostream/
> >>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/48244569@N02/9633228881/in/photostream/
> >>>>
> >>>> Please use the star feature to vote on the design(s) you prefer and
> >>>> leave comments on the image page if you think something should be
> >>>> changed. I'll check all the feedback and create the final version on
> >>>> Sunday evening (Sept 1st, CEST).
> >>>>
> >>>> Best wishes,
> >>>> Anita
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 23.07.2013, 09:35 Uhr, schrieb Tim Sutton <lists at linfiniti.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My 2c below:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Larry Shaffer
> >>>>> <larrys at dakotacarto.com>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Nathan Woodrow
> >>>>>> <madmanwoo at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Here is a version with the green but also the full logo:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/u6bj807cesttnwl/qgis_green3.png
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> +1, I think the layout and color selection are good. The layout
> >>>>>> doesn't
> >>>>>> include that dark grey border, does it? If so, please consider
> >>>>>> removing it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I think the Q logo should be smaller, say 1/3 the splash hight and
> >>>>> nestled
> >>>>> into the top left corner (with some white space around it) and with
> no
> >>>>> transparency.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Also, the font used for 'QGIS' is rather weak and, to be frank, a
> bit
> >>>>>> goofy-looking (especially the Q). I have a huge assortment of
> >>>>>> professional
> >>>>>> fonts which I can work with to find something better.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Agreed - though can you please use a font that is free or at  least
> >>>>> easily
> >>>>> available and provide the final splash as a gimp xcf so that we can
> >>>>> easily
> >>>>> re-use it in future releases.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nathan, do you have a working design file I can use? Or at least a
> >>>>>> background PNG without the lettering?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There appears to be no leading between the lines 'QGIS 2.0' and
> >>>>>> 'Dufour,'
> >>>>>> nor spacing between 'QGIS' and '2.0.' Was this intended? I do kind
> >>>>>> of like
> >>>>>> the effect, however. Usually when this is done in design, at
> >>>>>> minimum, the
> >>>>>> coloring of the two words/lines is different, even if just a
> >>>>>> difference in
> >>>>>> tone of the same color.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I agree with this, it needs a little more white space between the
> >>>>> words.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also a note that we usually store the master splash in  much higher
> >>>>> resolution so that it can be used in posters / printed products etc.
> A
> >>>>> downsampled one is then used for the final splash. Ideally in future
> >>>>> releases we would just swap out the background image and edit the
> text
> >>>>> containing the version and name.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tim
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Larry
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  - Nathan
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Marco Bernasocchi <
> >>>>>>> marco at bernawebdesign.ch> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 07/16/2013 03:02 PM, Matthias Kuhn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  Currently, all splash screen drafts I have seen are heavily
> >>>>>>>> based on
> >>>>>>>>> swisstopo maps. While I personally like these very well-done
> >>>>>>>>> maps, I
> >>>>>>>>> don't see the connection between these and QGIS. For me, looking
> >>>>>>>>> at the
> >>>>>>>>> splashes feels like looking at a swisstopo advertisement.
> >>>>>>>>> I would prefer a version, where we show off the new features of
> >>>>>>>>> QGIS
> >>>>>>>>> and/or having a historical map instead of just showing a standard
> >>>>>>>>> product of the official Swiss map-makers.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I agree with Matthias, and I'll suggest again (as Andreas did
> >>>>>>>> before) to
> >>>>>>>> try the dufour map:
> >>>>>>>> http://s.geo.admin.ch/**09751c84f<http://s.geo.admin.ch/09751c84f
> >or
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> maybe the sigfriedkarte
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ciao
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Marco Bernasocchi
> >>>>>>>> http://opengis.ch
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